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Nixon's Head
03-29-2007, 08:42 AM
The extent of my contact with Fox News usually is limited to hearing about the latest egregious “Faux News” spin and disinformation pointed out by MSNBC’s “Countdown” anchor, Keith Olbermann.

Tuesday offered up more than the usual fare — things like Olbermann demonstrating how Fox commentators incessantly repeat the White House talking points of the day or ridiculing the latest bombast from Bill O’Reilly.

The first thing to get my attention was how two U.S. military operatives compared Fox News to the Arab news channel, Al-Jazeera, on an episode of the PBS program, “Frontline.” The military spokesmen casually noted that Fox and Al-Jazerra operate similarly — they clearly package news with a point of view that their viewers want to hear.

Go ahead. Snicker the next time Fox calls itself “fair and balanced.” Just like Al-Jazerra!

The second thing I found interesting Tuesday was a commentary from Fox News program host John Gibson. The subject was that day’s arrest of an aide to Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va. for inadvertently carrying a firearm and ammunition into the security screening entrance to a Senate office building.

The aide, Phillip Thompson, said he didn’t know the gun and two magazines of ammo were in his briefcase. He was, nonetheless, arrested, charged with a felony for carrying a handgun without a license and jailed overnight.

Gibson, the Fox commentator, asked viewers to consider what would have happened if a Republican were caught in a similar situation?

“Now let’s just imagine that particular Republican senator had an aide who was caught carrying the senator’s loaded pistol around, revealing the fact that the senator routinely packs a gun,” Gibson said, according to a Fox News transcript. “Couldn’t I expect a great hue and cry about this senator who is so paranoid and demented he thinks he needs to carry an automatic pistol and two extra clips because he’s going to need to fight his way out of, what, the Senate cloakroom?”

Naturally, the incident rekindled memories of John Hostettler, former six-term Indiana 8th District Republican congressman, getting busted at the Louisville International Airport for having gun in his briefcase. Hostettler, a congressman, not an aide.

The arrest did indeed make news, as it should. Hostettler explained that he’d been traveling through the Bloody 8th (c’mon, I had to get that in there) and simply forgot that the gun was in his carry-on. Local and federal law enforcement officials detained Hostettler for about one hour and charged him with a misdemeanor for attempting to carry a deadly weapon onto an airplane.

Some people — me, for example — got a good laugh out of the incident. And I did wonder why J-Ho needed to be packing heat in the friendly local congressional district that had sent him to Washington for five terms at the time of his April 2004 arrest.

But “hue and cry?” It never happened, despite the fact this was a congressman and not just an aide.

Hostettler wound up pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge and given a suspended sentence. His permit to carry a handgun in Kentucky was suspended for two years.

What happened after that? Voters returned Hostettler to Congress for a sixth term that November. Two years later, he was ousted by Democrat Brad Ellsworth, the Vanderburgh County Sheriff who is at least as anti-gun control as Hostettler.

But it was just like Fox News to make up a stereotype of a liberal “hue and cry” should a Republican get popped on a weapons charge. And it was typical of Fox to underplay if not ignore the fact that Senator Webb, whose aide spent the night in jail, was a lifelong Republican and Navy secretary under Ronald Reagan. He only left the GOP, to quote another former Republican, basketball great Charles Barkley, “after they lost their minds.”

Source (http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2007/03/29/news.qp-275086.sto).

Reagan Smash
03-29-2007, 11:00 AM
Wow, a newspaper calling out a TV channel for bias. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.

IBC
03-29-2007, 11:02 AM
Wow, a newspaper calling out a TV channel for bias. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.
yeah, and in an editorial???

Reagan Smash
03-29-2007, 11:04 AM
yeah, and in an editorial???

Cry me a river. People bitch and moan about Fox News because it says it's "Fair and Balanced". Well, all news should be fair and balanced, but it's not. For years, television news, and t.v. in general has leaned(or is it lent?) to the left, and you heard very little about it nationally, but Fox learns to the right, and you have ESPN rejects like Olberman spouting off.

IBC
03-29-2007, 11:07 AM
Cry me a river. People bitch and moan about Fox News because it says it's "Fair and Balanced". Well, all news should be fair and balanced, but it's not. For years, television news, and t.v. in general has leaned(or is it lent?) to the left, and you heard very little about it nationally, but Fox learns to the right, and you have ESPN rejects like Olberman spouting off.
Wow, it must be those leftists running the news? Get a grip man. Nobody is more left than rich newsmen and the corporations that own them. What a joke.

IBC
03-29-2007, 11:08 AM
Oh, and did I mention that Faux News viewers were the least informed of any?

Reagan Smash
03-29-2007, 11:11 AM
Wow, it must be those leftists running the news? Get a grip man. Nobody is more left than rich newsmen and the corporations that own them. What a joke.


Yes, because we know all rich people are Republicans, like all those Hollywood actors

Reagan Smash
03-29-2007, 11:13 AM
Oh, and did I mention that Faux News viewers were the least informed of any?


Because only idiots and hillbillies would watch Fox News, while all the intellectuals and college crowd fellate themselves to Keith Olberman and Dan Rather.

Jiddy78
03-29-2007, 11:16 AM
Because only idiots and hillbillies would watch Fox News, while all the intellectuals and college crowd fellate themselves to Keith Olberman and Dan Rather.

I'm in it for the pretty graphics. Unparalleled quality.

Reagan Smash
03-29-2007, 11:20 AM
I'm in it for the pretty graphics. Unparalleled quality.

See, I don't even watch Fox News, more of a CNBC guy myself, but they don't have enough of Ann Coulter for my taste. When she starts talking about Godless this and immoral that, I become like Dwayne Johnson, a Rock

Jiddy78
03-29-2007, 11:22 AM
See, I don't even watch Fox News, more of a CNBC guy myself, but they don't have enough of Ann Coulter for my taste. When she starts talking about Godless this and immoral that, I become like Dwayne Johnson, a Rock


CNBS?!?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I'll pray for you.

IBC
03-29-2007, 01:00 PM
Because only idiots and hillbillies would watch Fox News, while all the intellectuals and college crowd fellate themselves to Keith Olberman and Dan Rather.
Man, Dan Rather, what a liberal he was. tell me again how that Bush story was factually wrong?

Vegas
03-29-2007, 01:06 PM
Man, Dan Rather, what a liberal he was. tell me again how that Bush story was factually wrong?

That Bush story was factually wrong.

hannitykillspuppies
03-29-2007, 01:30 PM
That Bush story was factually wrong.

that didn't answer his question.

Reagan Smash
03-29-2007, 05:41 PM
that didn't answer his question.

I don't have the time for that, but I always get a kick out of seeing old Danny boy kicked to the curb.

ryr8828
03-29-2007, 05:53 PM
Man, Dan Rather, what a liberal he was. tell me again how that Bush story was factually wrong?

Well, it was a made up fabrication.

Dan Rather was BIASED for years. A disgrace to the old news desk, although he'd fit right in with network news now. Probably win an award for objectivity.

Report the shit, I'll figure it out for myself. Unfortunately the sheep like to be told what to think.

Jiddy78
03-29-2007, 05:56 PM
Well, it was a made up fabrication.

Dan Rather was BIASED for years. A disgrace to the old news desk, although he'd fit right in with network news now. Probably win an award for objectivity.

Report the shit, I'll figure it out for myself. Unfortunately the sheep like to be told what to think.

You said "sheep."

:p :p :p

IBC
03-30-2007, 10:25 AM
Well, it was a made up fabrication.

Dan Rather was BIASED for years. A disgrace to the old news desk, although he'd fit right in with network news now. Probably win an award for objectivity.

Report the shit, I'll figure it out for myself. Unfortunately the sheep like to be told what to think.
You guys are still pissed he took on and took out Nixon. Bush and his camp never refuted anything in the story itself, only that the document was a forgery. In fact, I often wonder why that is. Why did a document come out that was so accurate in what other news organizations had known for a long time, just couldn't prove? Why was it sent to CBS? Why in the hell didn't they pay attention to the fact that it was a forgery?
Then again, tell me the line about how Bush is more of a war hero than John Kerry. His flight suit rules.

IBC
03-30-2007, 10:27 AM
Well, it was a made up fabrication.

Dan Rather was BIASED for years. A disgrace to the old news desk, although he'd fit right in with network news now. Probably win an award for objectivity.

Report the shit, I'll figure it out for myself. Unfortunately the sheep like to be told what to think.
Liek Fox? The most blatant tell you what to think newssource in history. You know if you are a news source and you have to come out to say you are "Fair and Balanced", you are probably the opposite. Kinda like the clean skies and air act that actually allows corporation to pollute more. Its crazy how Orwellian these guys are.

hannitykillspuppies
03-30-2007, 10:51 AM
Liek Fox? The most blatant tell you what to think newssource in history. You know if you are a news source and you have to come out to say you are "Fair and Balanced", you are probably the opposite. Kinda like the clean skies and air act that actually allows corporation to pollute more. Its crazy how Orwellian these guys are.


no, no. they report. you decide. they clearly state that.