"Obama wouldn't know the difference between an RPG and a bong."

[Vegas]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0507/McCain_responds_and_then_some.html

McCain responds to Obama in tough enough, if predictable, language:

"While Senator Obama's two years in the U.S. Senate certainly entitle him to vote against funding our troops, my service and experience combined with conversations with military leaders on the ground in Iraq lead me to believe that we must give this new strategy a chance to succeed because the consequences of failure would be catastrophic to our nation's security."

But, McCain being McCain, he can't help himself and goes the next step in the statement's kicker:

"By the way, Senator Obama, it's a 'flak' jacket, not a 'flack' jacket."

Which is to say, "there is only one of us in this argument who has ever worn the uniform." (my words)

And if you still don't get it, a McCain aide blows away the anthill with, well, a rocket.

"Obama wouldn't know the difference between an RPG and a bong."

[ryr8828]

Point to McCain, although I don't really like him.

[LSU]

Point to McCain, although I don't really like him.



Then also, point to McCain in regards to Bush, Cheney, and any other war planner that never donned combat gear.


The "I've been there, you haven't" routine is getting a little old with McCain. If you have to have had a war history to become president, there'd be a lot of people from both sides that never even would've made it on the ticket.

[abreu]

Oh. Oh. That's awesme.

Still dislike McCain, but regardless, it's pretty awesome

[LSU]

Oh. Oh. That's awesme.

Still dislike McCain, but regardless, it's pretty awesome



So, then you'd agree it was awesome when Kerry talked about his war experience and how Bush had none.


Thus, John Kerry would have been a better person to talk about or discuss the war than Dubya.


Very sound logic at work here. I had no idea we had so many Kerry supporters.

[abreu]

So, then you'd agree it was awesome when Kerry talked about his war experience and how Bush had none.


Thus, John Kerry would have been a better person to talk about or discuss the war than Dubya.


Very sound logic at work here. I had no idea we had so many Kerry supporters.
I just enjoyed the bong comment.

[LSU]

I just enjoyed the bong comment.


Oh. Hmmm...I guess McCain does know what a bong is...uh oh...

[pnkpanther]

Oh. Hmmm...I guess McCain does know what a bong is...uh oh...

damn conservatives and their selfish ways

[Iron Jaw]

So, then you'd agree it was awesome when Kerry talked about his war experience and how Bush had none.
Thus, John Kerry would have been a better person to talk about or discuss the war than Dubya.
Very sound logic at work here. I had no idea we had so many Kerry supporters.

I've always liked and supported John McCain. And yes, he can come up with some good quotes like the current. I remember on his political trip back to Vietnam a few years ago. He said, "The wrong Vietnam won the war."

I supported John McCain in the 2000 primaries, and have voted for him as the AZ senator on three occasions. And he'll get my support in the Republican primaries when they come up.

As a combat veteran myself, I respected John Kerry's military service. What I did not like about Kerry was his association with the VVAW after his military service.

George W. Bush was an officer in the Air National Guard and subject to callup whenever necessary. Claims that state he did not attend the monthly meetings have never been accurately verified. One thing is certain - he did serve nearly three years on active duty, the time it takes to obtain an officer's commission and successfully train as a pilot. As a guardsman, Bush had a six year obligation. I respect his service.

Al Gore served two-years in the Army as an enlisted man. Despite the fact that he was a Harvard graduate, he chose to serve in an enlisted position instead of seeking a position of leadership. Gore was sent to Vietnam in 1971 with 7-months remaining on his enlistment (he was in Vietnam four months) - which was unusual at the time, considering the Vietnamization program had been in full swing for over a year and troop strength was being cut back at a rate of 25K per month. Gore was a combat correspondent (which was my job in the Marine Corps - though I was assigned to infantry and recon units). I respect Gore's service. Gore had influential parents too. He was offered a guard assignment as an officer, but turned it down and enlisted in the regular Army. Probably the two-year enlistment looked better than a five year assignment to the guard as an officer.

Clinton was a flat-out draft dodger and did everything he could to avoid any type of military service. He once wrote a letter explaining that he "loathed the military."

Yes, Bush and Gore had protective parents - Bush had connections that got him into the guard, though as stated, guardsmen are always subject to deployment. And despite the rhetoric, it was not that hard to get into the national guard during the Vietnam War. My older brother joined the Colorado National Guard in 1969. He was sent to Vietnam later that year. My father was a blue-collar working man - no connections whatsoever. Heck, Dad was ticked off because big bro broke a family tradition by not joining the Marines. At the time, the regular Army units could pluck soldiers from the guard and reserves for replacements, without activating the entire unit. My brother was activated along with 15 others from his unit.

Many of our presidents during the 20th Century served in the military, and many served in combat - as did many of their opponents in various elections.

William McKinley - Civil War veteran, Union Army, enlisted man and officer, Combat vet.
Theodore Roosevelt - Spanish American War, Rough Riders, officer, Combat vet. (requested duty in WWI after serving as president - request denied by President Wilson).
Harry Truman - WWI, Army, enlisted man and officer, combat vet.
Dwight D. Eisenhower - WWI, WWII and other campaigns - career Army Officer, great general, combat vet.
John F. Kennedy - WWII, Naval Officer, PT Boat commander, combat vet.
Lyndon Johnson - WWII, Naval Officer, pilot, combat vet.
Richard Nixon - WWII, Naval Officer, combat vet.
Jimmy Carter - Post WWII Naval Officer, no combat, Naval Academy graduate.
Ronald Reagan - joined Army Reserve as officer in 1937. Active duty during WWII as an Army Captain. Volunteered for combat, rejected for eye problems - no combat.
George H.W. Bush - WWII, Naval Officer, pilot - combat vet.

[Iron Jaw]

Oh. Hmmm...I guess McCain does know what a bong is...uh oh...

He could say: "Bong Bong Bong, Bong Bong Iran........."

[Ed Who?]

So, then you'd agree it was awesome when Kerry talked about his war experience and how Bush had none.


Kerry's war experience consisted of faking injuries to get medals and turning on his fellow troops to advance his political career.

Of course, if you're Hanoi Jane, that's one level below "fragger" on the "Respected Military" scale.

[LSU]

Kerry's war experience consisted of faking injuries to get medals and turning on his fellow troops to advance his political career.

Of course, if you're Hanoi Jane, that's one level below "fragger" on the "Respected Military" scale.



So then you're in complete disagreement with Iron Jaw over Kerry's war experience?

[IBC]

Kerry's war experience consisted of faking injuries to get medals and turning on his fellow troops to advance his political career.

Of course, if you're Hanoi Jane, that's one level below "fragger" on the "Respected Military" scale.

Lies and more lies.

[hannitykillspuppies]

Kerry's war experience consisted of faking injuries to get medals and turning on his fellow troops to advance his political career.

Of course, if you're Hanoi Jane, that's one level below "fragger" on the "Respected Military" scale.

faking injuries?

[BoredWithNoSB]

Al Gore served two-years in the Army as an enlisted man. Despite the fact that he was a Harvard graduate, he chose to serve in an enlisted position instead of seeking a position of leadership. Gore was sent to Vietnam in 1971 with 7-months remaining on his enlistment (he was in Vietnam four months) - which was unusual at the time, considering the Vietnamization program had been in full swing for over a year and troop strength was being cut back at a rate of 25K per month. Gore was a combat correspondent (which was my job in the Marine Corps - though I was assigned to infantry and recon units). I respect Gore's service. Gore had influential parents too. He was offered a guard assignment as an officer, but turned it down and enlisted in the regular Army. Probably the two-year enlistment looked better than a five year assignment to the guard as an officer.

I honestly didn't know this about Gore. I wish the a**hole would have capitalized on this more. Might not be sending people (and hundreds of billions of dollars) off to fight in a foreign civil war if he did.