Kerry's inconvenient truth [Archive]

Vegas

03-27-2007, 08:12 PM

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Reverend Gore's energy-guzzling mansion has brought snickers from the pews, but there's always John Kerry to one up the Goracle in the hypocrisy sweepstakes.

Kerry appeared on Democratic jester Jon Stewart's show Monday night to flog his green tome (and just in time too - we don't have enough books by ex-candidates warning us of the Apocalypse), "This Moment on Earth". "We're running out of time" to save the planet, Pastor John intoned, but "a lot of people out there want to do what's right." Thus the book, which Kerry hopes will teach that "you can develop a sustainable way by which to live."

Present company excluded, of course.

While running for eco-moralizer-in-chief in 2004, Kerry was asked by The Detroit News editorial board (see article here from National Review) what car he drove. Without any hint of irony, he said:

"Well, we have a couple of Chrysler minivans. We have a Jeep. . . and a PT Cruiser up in Boston. . .and we have some SUVs. . . and an old Dodge 600 that I keep in the Senate. . . and I also have a Chevy. A big Suburban."

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:18 PM

Vegas

03-27-2007, 08:20 PM

Hypocritical politicians still to this day do not make the science wrong.

No, the "science" is wrong all by itself. The hypocritical politicians are just funny.

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:22 PM

No, the "science" is wrong all by itself.

If you refer to the science you back, then I suppose you're right.

Reagan Smash

03-27-2007, 08:23 PM

Hypocritical politicians still to this day do not make the science wrong.

Except to politicize the issue

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:25 PM

Except to politicize the issue

Agreed. And butcher most of it. Or exaggerate or misquote. Misinterpret is another good one.

Reagan Smash

03-27-2007, 08:29 PM

Agreed. And butcher most of it. Or exaggerate or misquote. Misinterpret is another good one.

It becomes another issue which alot of people will ignore of chop up to being a political issue.

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:30 PM

It becomes another issue which alot of people will ignore of chop up to being a political issue.

I don't get what you're saying there.

Reagan Smash

03-27-2007, 08:32 PM

I don't get what you're saying there.

Instead of being something that everyone should be worried about, it has become a political issue, where many will just ignore it or not believe it because of who it comes from. John Kerry appearing on John Stewart does nothing but add to the belief that this is a Democrat issue.

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:33 PM

Instead of being something that everyone should be worried about, it has become a political issue, where many will just ignore it or not believe it because of who it comes from. John Kerry appearing on John Stewart does nothing but add to the belief that this is a Democrat issue.

I absolutely concur.

Same thing happened and is happening with the embryonic stem cell research. Except it was the other side that politicized that science.

Reagan Smash

03-27-2007, 08:36 PM

I absolutely concur.

Same thing happened and is happening with the embryonic stem cell research. Except it was the other side that politicized that science.

It becomes an issue where it just looks like the Democrats are using it to weaken Republicans, who are associated with oil. If Gore was as serious as he says he was, he should've been knocking on every Republican's door, trying to get someone to concur with him, instead of presenting it as liberal propaganda.

Vegas

03-27-2007, 08:37 PM

It becomes an issue where it just looks like the Democrats are using it to weaken Republicans, who are associated with oil. If Gore was as serious as he says he was, he should've been knocking on every Republican's door, trying to get someone to concur with him, instead of presenting it as liberal propaganda.

If Gore really believed this stuff, he wouldn't be such a hypocrite with his own energy use and wouldn't be involved in the carbon credit scam and making big money on the whole thing.

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:38 PM

It becomes an issue where it just looks like the Democrats are using it to weaken Republicans, who are associated with oil. If Gore was as serious as he says he was, he should've been knocking on every Republican's door, trying to get someone to concur with him, instead of presenting it as liberal propaganda.

Aren't there some repubs that do concur with him (McCain?)?

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:39 PM

If Gore really believed this stuff, he wouldn't be such a hypocrite with his own energy use and wouldn't be involved in the carbon credit scam and making big money on the whole thing.

I don't believe that. I think he truly believes the "stuff", he just doesn't think about himself actually applying it, or thinking every little bit can make a difference.

Reagan Smash

03-27-2007, 08:40 PM

Aren't there some repubs that do concur with him (McCain?)?

I'm sure there are, but they're not appearing on Jon Stewart to talk about it. I can't think of a worse move then having Kerry appear on your behalf.

Vegas

03-27-2007, 08:41 PM

I'm sure there are, but they're not appearing on Jon Stewart to talk about it. I can't think of a worse move then having Kerry appear on your behalf.

Having algore appear on your behalf??

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:41 PM

I'm sure there are, but they're not appearing on Jon Stewart to talk about it. I can't think of a worse move then having Kerry appear on your behalf.

I know McCain has been on with Stewart a few times, but I can't remember if they've discussed warming.

As for a worse move, that is quite hard to top.

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:43 PM

Having algore appear on your behalf??

Well, if we're naming names, I think GDubya, Cheney, Hannity, Coulter, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Rosie O'Donnell, Alec Baldwin, Kanye West, and a few select others fit the bill.

Vegas

03-27-2007, 08:44 PM

Well, if we're naming names, I think GDubya, Cheney, Hannity, Coulter, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Rosie O'Donnell, Alec Baldwin, Kanye West, and a few select others fit the bill.

I've never disputed that there is a surplus or nuts on both sides of the political aisle.

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:44 PM

I've never disputed that there is a surplus or nuts on both sides of the political aisle.

I'd consider it a veritable who's who of genital warts on society.

Vegas

03-27-2007, 08:45 PM

I'd consider it a veritable who's who of genital warts on society.

That's a spectacular use of the English language. Seriously.

Reagan Smash

03-27-2007, 08:45 PM

Having algore appear on your behalf??

I think Gore is far enough removed from his office to be somewhat effective. Kerry to most people is just a loser. He's the kind of Democrat that the Democrats shouldn't be putting out their for their cause. Gore at least has the cache of being a two time Vice President, Kerry lost to a man who could've easily been beaten by someone with charisma or a real personality.

Reagan Smash

03-27-2007, 08:47 PM

I've never disputed that there is a surplus or nuts on both sides of the political aisle.

Yes, but the Republican nuts are looked at as nuts, while the Democratic nuts are branded activists. This is what always pissed me off, and a big reason why I turned against the party.

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:50 PM

That's a spectacular use of the English language. Seriously.

I just took a guess.

LSU

03-27-2007, 08:50 PM

Yes, but the Republican nuts are looked at as nuts, while the Democratic nuts are branded activists. This is what always pissed me off, and a big reason why I turned against the party.

Well, when you compare homosexuality to cornholing a dog...well...can't expect much.

ryr8828

03-27-2007, 09:33 PM

Well, when you compare homosexuality to cornholing a dog...well...can't expect much.

Who did that?

Although I find each act equally disgusting, I didn't post it here.

LSU

03-27-2007, 09:50 PM

Who did that?

Although I find each act equally disgusting, I didn't post it here.

Santorum.

I would counter that in one act, it's still a human being. In the other act it's...a dog.

Actually, he compared it to bestiality, not a dog specifically.

ryr8828

03-27-2007, 09:57 PM

Santorum.

I would counter that in one act, it's still a human being. In the other act it's...a dog.

Actually, he compared it to bestiality, not a dog specifically.

They are both perverted acts. Perhaps he was right.

LSU

03-27-2007, 11:30 PM

They are both perverted acts. Perhaps he was right.

Yeah, women on top is perverted to some people. Among other dastardly deeds.

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 10:23 AM

They are both perverted acts. Perhaps he was right.

that is sheer ignorance.

Jiddy78

03-28-2007, 10:28 AM

Having algore appear on your behalf??

That's a good one...Unfortunately Al Gore STILL was more popular that GW in the prior election....and without a doubt is now, so that fact alone takes a lot of the "oomph" out of that joke....

Reaganomics won GW both of his elections....Decentralization of government and a land rush....It's all about the electoral college.....not the majority....A smart plan by that old coot. He had it figured out years ago.

ryr8828

03-28-2007, 04:40 PM

that is sheer ignorance.

Why?

Because you say it is?

Do you think that in the grand scheme of things that a rectum was designed to hold a penis?

LSU

03-28-2007, 04:44 PM

Why?

Because you say it is?

Do you think that in the grand scheme of things that a rectum was designed to hold a penis?

Nothing was designed.

The same question could be asked of a hand or a mouth.

ryr8828

03-28-2007, 04:46 PM

Nothing was designed.

I disagree.

LSU

03-28-2007, 04:51 PM

I disagree.

I know.

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 04:52 PM

Why?

Because you say it is?

Do you think that in the grand scheme of things that a rectum was designed to hold a penis?

comparing fucking an animal to another consenting human?

so are you saying my dad is no better then guy from WI that just got busted for fucking a dead deer?

Jiddy78

03-28-2007, 04:52 PM

I disagree.

http://www.customnames.com/images/calvin_Chev.jpg

Jiddy78

03-28-2007, 04:53 PM

comparing fucking an animal to another consenting human?

so are you saying my dad is no better then guy from WI that just got busted for fucking a dead deer?

http://www.customnames.com/images/calvin_Chev.jpg

Take that station wagon.

ryr8828

03-28-2007, 04:54 PM

comparing fucking an animal to another consenting human?

so are you saying my dad is no better then guy from WI that just got busted for fucking a dead deer?

I said or have said nothing about your family. You're the one who seems to be determined to involve them.

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 04:59 PM

I said or have said nothing about your family. You're the one who seems to be determined to involve them.

well you agreed with statement comparing beasality to homosexuality...

or I'm sorry, you said maybe he's right....

so i'm assuming you would apply to all homosexuals, i'll take my family out

Are you saying two consenting adults are no better then the guy from WI that was recently caught for fucking a dead deer? It wasnt his first offense, few years back he killed a horse to fuck it, but never got a chance.

i suppose you can take out the dead animal, you actually thing a guy fuckign a live deer is on same plane as a two consenting adults?

If the answer yes, that is sheer ignorance.

I can accept not liking homosexuality.but it amazes me that homosexuality is nothing new and going on since begining of the time, and people still think it's a "choice"

Jiddy78

03-28-2007, 04:59 PM

comparing fucking an animal to another consenting human?

so are you saying my dad is no better then guy from WI that just got busted for fucking a dead deer?

I didn't notice the content of this post before posting the pic pnky....Hope no offense was taken...Stop sweatin' the small stuff dude....Enjoy the time you have with your pops now and be the best person you can be under your own set of morals....Nobody else's matter in the end....'cept for mine, which are all-knowing and infallible, of course.

Vegas

03-28-2007, 05:00 PM

well you agreed with statement comparing beasality to homosexuality...

or I'm sorry, you said maybe he's right....

so i'm assuming you would apply to all homosexuals, i'll take my family out

Are you saying two consenting adults are no better then the guy from WI that was recently caught for fucking a dead deer? It wasnt his first offense, few years back he killed a horse to fuck it, but never got a chance.

i suppose you can take out the dead animal, you actually thing a guy fuckign a live deer is on same plane as a two consenting adults?

If the answer yes, that is sheer ignorance.

I can accept not liking homosexuality.but it amazes me that homosexuality is nothing new and going on since begining of the time, and people still think it's a "choice"

There are all kinds of things that have been going on for all of history including murder, adultery, theft, etc. That doesn't make them right.

ryr8828

03-28-2007, 05:05 PM

well you agreed with statement comparing beasality to homosexuality...

or I'm sorry, you said maybe he's right....

so i'm assuming you would apply to all homosexuals, i'll take my family out

Are you saying two consenting adults are no better then the guy from WI that was recently caught for fucking a dead deer? It wasnt his first offense, few years back he killed a horse to fuck it, but never got a chance.

i suppose you can take out the dead animal, you actually thing a guy fuckign a live deer is on same plane as a two consenting adults?

If the answer yes, that is sheer ignorance.

I can accept not liking homosexuality.but it amazes me that homosexuality is nothing new and going on since begining of the time, and people still think it's a "choice"

I'm not going to debate different levels of perversion.

Other things that have been going on since the early times are murder, theft, slavery, mutilation, idol worship.

I don't think the length of time they've been going on makes them acceptable behavior.

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 05:06 PM

I didn't notice the content of this post before posting the pic pnky....Hope no offense was taken...Stop sweatin' the small stuff dude....Enjoy the time you have with your pops now and be the best person you can be under your own set of morals....Nobody else's matter in the end....'cept for mine, which are all-knowing and infallible, of course.

i take no offense, if i was offended by it i wouldtn post here, i have thick skin. i wouldnt have personalized the argument (as ryr is correct, he didnt, i did) if i was offended

LSU

03-28-2007, 05:07 PM

I didn't notice the content of this post before posting the pic pnky....Hope no offense was taken...Stop sweatin' the small stuff dude....Enjoy the time you have with your pops now and be the best person you can be under your own set of morals....Nobody else's matter in the end....'cept for mine, which are all-knowing and infallible, of course.

Don't let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.

A very sensible person has this as their sig somewhere...

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 05:07 PM

There are all kinds of things that have been going on for all of history including murder, adultery, theft, etc. That doesn't make them right.

do people consent to getting murdered? things stolen from them?

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 05:10 PM

I'm not going to debate different levels of perversion.

Other things that have been going on since the early times are murder, theft, slavery, mutilation, idol worship.

I don't think the length of time they've been going on makes them acceptable behavior.

see my response to vegas

but comparing it to beastility is wrong and ignorant, i'm sure the majority of americans would agree.

the bible says it wrong.....fuck that, the bible says lots of things that dont apply, that was man's bias put in the book, there is a lot of it.

the bible teaches love, respect, compassion, too many people forget that.

Jiddy78

03-28-2007, 05:10 PM

Don't let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's left.

A very sensible person has this as their sig somewhere...

I fixed that for you.

Jiddy78

03-28-2007, 05:12 PM

see my response to vegas

but comparing it to beastility is wrong and ignorant, i'm sure the majority of americans would agree.

the bible says it wrong.....fuck that, the bible says lots of things that dont apply, that was man's bias put in the book, there is a lot of it.

the bible teaches love, respect, compassion, too many people forget that.

I've prayed before that the word "flipper" wasn't translated loosely from the Bible as "carpenter."

Vegas

03-28-2007, 05:18 PM

Pnk, I'm not trying to be a jerk and I mean this as a sincere question. Do you think that people are born to be child molesters, adulterers, or partipate in beastiality?

Reagan Smash

03-28-2007, 05:27 PM

Pnk, I'm not trying to be a jerk and I mean this as a sincere question. Do you think that people are born to be child molesters, adulterers, or partipate in beastiality?

Doesn't God control this, or doesn't he?

ryr8828

03-28-2007, 05:29 PM

Doesn't God control this, or doesn't he?

God allows us free will.

Reagan Smash

03-28-2007, 05:39 PM

God allows us free will.

Is their total free will, or are people just products of their surroundings?

*NZ*

03-28-2007, 05:43 PM

Is their total free will, or are people just products of their surroundings?

IMO, ultimately there is total free will but people are heavily influenced by their upbringing/surroundings.

LSU

03-28-2007, 05:46 PM

Is their total free will, or are people just products of their surroundings?

you can't choose to be male or female...at least at birth.

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 05:46 PM

Pnk, I'm not trying to be a jerk and I mean this as a sincere question. Do you think that people are born to be child molesters, adulterers, or partipate in beastiality?

first i dont think you can or there is a comparasion between consenting adults and what people who prey on defensless victims.

second, i think homosexuality isnt normal. it isnt. I think it's gross, the thought of having two dudes have sex gross's me out.

third, most molestors were molested as children, or the result of many problems, some from repressing their sexual desires, so they abuse others. They prey on victims and it's simply wrong, many cant help themselves, and cannot be fixed/treated. and what they do HURTS people, two gay men doesnt hurt anyone...or despite what SOME conservatives think, the family.

if you had a gay child would you shun them? I'm willing to bet you wouldnt and your views would change, and change greatly. I'd prefer to have a straight father, but i go with the cards i was dealt. I wish you and Ryr had a very close gay relative (sibling/parent/child) to open your eyes, people who do typically do 180's.

Do you think a gay person should repress their feelings and be celebate and unhappy their whole life? Some do, some commit suicide, some have wives and live false life's. I think they should live their life, as thats what God would want, to be miserable a disservice to God, and i feel they have nothing to reprent for. If loving someone with your whole soul is wrong solely due to being same egnder and you're refused heaven for it, send me to hell with the fags as i have no desire to be with people who would deny someone else their happiness.

i think views are changing on homosexuality and thats a good thing, and dont expect people to like it, or say it's normal, i'll agree it's gross and off kilter, but i truly believe that's the way God made them. 50 years ago, people thought interracial marriage was an affront to God, one conservative christian phrased it "God put us on seperate continents for a reason"

One of the commandments is honor thy father and mother. What would that make me if I denounced my father? To me you cant say i hate that your gay, but love you, you have to accept person and love person for who they are (i believe thats in the bible too, or at least a message that should be taken from the bible)...

you want to compare what two adults to sexual predators, well open your eyes. You want to say its' wrong, i can live with that, but get of your pedastal and realize they're people too, and realize there is a possibility that they are the way God made them.

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 05:47 PM

God allows us free will.

stupid women allowing sin in the world...

and now they're bitching because we pay them 2/3 what a man makes.

Vegas

03-28-2007, 05:50 PM

first i dont think you can or there is a comparasion between consenting adults and what people who prey on defensless victims.

second, i think homosexuality isnt normal. it isnt. I think it's gross, the thought of having two dudes have sex gross's me out.

third, most molestors were molested as children, or the result of many problems, some from repressing their sexual desires, so they abuse others. They prey on victims and it's simply wrong, many cant help themselves, and cannot be fixed/treated. and what they do HURTS people, two gay men doesnt hurt anyone...or despite what SOME conservatives think, the family.

if you had a gay child would you shun them? I'm willing to bet you wouldnt and your views would change, and change greatly. I'd prefer to have a straight father, but i go with the cards i was dealt. I wish you and Ryr had a very close gay relative (sibling/parent/child) to open your eyes, people who do typically do 180's.

Do you think a gay person should repress their feelings and be celebate and unhappy their whole life? Some do, some commit suicide, some have wives and live false life's. I think they should live their life, as thats what God would want, to be miserable a disservice to God, and i feel they have nothing to reprent for. If loving someone with your whole soul is wrong solely due to being same egnder and you're refused heaven for it, send me to hell with the fags as i have no desire to be with people who would deny someone else their happiness.

i think views are changing on homosexuality and thats a good thing, and dont expect people to like it, or say it's normal, i'll agree it's gross and off kilter, but i truly believe that's the way God made them. 50 years ago, people thought interracial marriage was an affront to God, one conservative christian phrased it "God put us on seperate continents for a reason"

One of the commandments is honor thy father and mother. What would that make me if I denounced my father? To me you cant say i hate that your gay, but love you, you have to accept person and love person for who they are (i believe thats in the bible too, or at least a message that should be taken from the bible)...

you want to compare what two adults to sexual predators, well open your eyes. You want to say its' wrong, i can live with that, but get of your pedastal and realize they're people too, and realize there is a possibility that they are the way God made them.

I do have a close relative that's homosexual.

I don't believe that all child molesters were molested as children. But let's start with your example of the guy that was honking the dead deer. Was that guy born to do that?

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 05:52 PM

i wont edit, just to clarify, i dont actually wish you had a gay relative, but i would like to see how you felt if it was actually, i dont think it's something you can honestly say in a hypothetical situation

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 05:54 PM

I do have a close relative that's homosexual.

I don't believe that all child molesters were molested as children. But let's start with your example of the guy that was honking the dead deer. Was that guy born to do that?

to level of closeness i said? it's a whole lot different.....

i think there is something wrong with him, nature nurture i dont know. some people are born seriously fucked in head no matter how you raise them,

sociopaths are an interesting study, not all turn out deviant. Others are succesful businessman.

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 05:56 PM

Jiddy78

03-28-2007, 05:56 PM

to level of closeness i said? it's a whole lot different.....

i think there is something wrong with him, nature nurture i dont know. some people are born seriously fucked in head no matter how you raise them,

sociopaths are an interesting study, not all turn out deviant. Others are succesful businessman.

Thanks man.

swordfish

03-28-2007, 05:57 PM

Why?

Because you say it is?

Do you think that in the grand scheme of things that a rectum was designed to hold a penis?

Actually according to some evolutionary theorists the rectum will "evolve" into a vagina. Then what will they do?

Jiddy78

03-28-2007, 05:58 PM

Actually according to some evolutionary theorists the rectum will "evolve" into a vagina. Then what will they do?

A more thorough cleaning after birth, of course.

hannitykillspuppies

03-28-2007, 06:04 PM

do vegas and ryr believe being gay is a choice?

Vegas

03-28-2007, 06:06 PM

do vegas and ryr believe being gay is a choice?

Do you believe committing adultery is a choice?

hannitykillspuppies

03-28-2007, 06:07 PM

Do you believe committing adultery is a choice?

when did you choose to be straight?

Vegas

03-28-2007, 06:08 PM

when did you choose to be straight?

I have made the choice not to commit adultery more than once.

Jiddy78

03-28-2007, 06:10 PM

I have made the choice not to commit adultery more than once.

I was born faithful.

LSU

03-28-2007, 06:10 PM

I have made the choice not to commit adultery more than once.

PLAYA!

hannitykillspuppies

03-28-2007, 06:10 PM

I have made the choice not to commit adultery more than once.

congratulations, you can keep an oath. what does your trustworthiness have to do with sexuality?

LSU

03-28-2007, 06:11 PM

I was born faithful.

I was born ugly. Thus, faithful.

IBC

03-28-2007, 06:15 PM

Pnk, I'm not trying to be a jerk and I mean this as a sincere question. Do you think that people are born to be child molesters, adulterers, or partipate in beastiality?
THAT IS NOT THE SAME! Why in the hell do you compare acts that are committed against people to acts that are between consenting adults? I thought you wanted government out of our business.

*NZ*

03-28-2007, 06:35 PM

Im still eager to hear a response to Pnks question (post #61) from Vegas, Ryr and others

ryr8828

03-28-2007, 09:19 PM

i cant edit

but i'd really like an answer to this question i posed

Do you think a gay person should repress their feelings and be celebate and unhappy their whole life? Some do, some commit suicide, some have wives and live false life's. I think they should live their life, as thats what God would want, to be miserable a disservice to God, and i feel they have nothing to reprent for. If loving someone with your whole soul is wrong solely due to being same egnder and you're refused heaven for it, send me to hell with the fags as i have no desire to be with people who would deny someone else their happiness.

Yes. I think a shot of testosterone is in order, along with a football game, a boxing match, and a good looking female therapist. As for the gay women, give the bull dykes a big shot of estrogen and a dress, and for the effeminate lesbians well you younger guys should do a better job out there.

Happiness is relative. Some people are never happy. Some people are only happy when they have money. Others are only happy when they're fucking someone else out of something. I think history shows that hedonistic societies have always fallen because of their own constant search for pleasure and lack of morals.

I find it hard to believe that someone could love another of the same gender with their "entire soul" (paraphrase) without varying from the norm and sampling this homosexual lifestyle first. They feel an urge and follow it apparently, without thought to the others around them. Their families, their children if they have them, their spouses. Now we're all supposed to be concerned about their feelings, when they apparently aren't concerned about the feelings of those who worry about them.

See, I'd like to do the red headed gal at the golf course. She's obviously a whore and has given me no reason to think I couldn't get the job done. It would feel damn good for me and hopefully her. I don't do it because it's not right and there are other people to consider. Now I guess I should only consider what's good for me and to hell with everyone else, but I cant do that and don't believe that it's right.

swordfish

03-28-2007, 09:56 PM

Which red head?

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 09:57 PM

Do you believe committing adultery is a choice?

apples to oranges my friend

ryr8828

03-28-2007, 10:00 PM

Which red head?

The only one. The slutty acting one.

You know too much already.

Ok, it's the gal that all the guys call UN.

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 10:04 PM

Yes. I think a shot of testosterone is in order, along with a football game, a boxing match, and a good looking female therapist. As for the gay women, give the bull dykes a big shot of estrogen and a dress, and for the effeminate lesbians well you younger guys should do a better job out there.

simple way of looking at it, not surpsing by a conservative dinosaur, but you should know it's not that simple. According to the bible and by Jesus's sermon on the mount, marrying a divorced women is no different then adultrey, you're wife is divorced no?

Happiness is relative. Some people are never happy. Some people are only happy when they have money. Others are only happy when they're fucking someone else out of something. I think history shows that hedonistic societies have always fallen because of their own constant search for pleasure and lack of morals.

I'll agree to that to some extent, each person's morality is different, if muslims where the majority in this country, should we live by there morals? Who are you to define others morals? I'd guess the ratio of single free loving homosexuals is same % of single free loving hetreo sexual's.

I find it hard to believe that someone could love another of the same gender with their "entire soul" (paraphrase) without varying from the norm and sampling this homosexual lifestyle first. They feel an urge and follow it apparently, without thought to the others around them. Their families, their children if they have them, their spouses. Now we're all supposed to be concerned about their feelings, when they apparently aren't concerned about the feelings of those who worry about them.

of course you do, you're straight. You see the world from your eyes and cant imagine anything different. You cant love a guy with your whole soul no more then my dad could a women.

See, I'd like to do the red headed gal at the golf course. She's obviously a whore and has given me no reason to think I couldn't get the job done. It would feel damn good for me and hopefully her. I don't do it because it's not right and there are other people to consider. Now I guess I should only consider what's good for me and to hell with everyone else, but I cant do that and don't believe that it's right.

again apples to oranges, making a commitment to someone and keeping it is far different then being gay

swordfish

03-28-2007, 10:08 PM

do vegas and ryr believe being gay is a choice?

Clearly everything is a choice. Let's all be whores.

ryr8828

03-28-2007, 10:09 PM

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 10:10 PM

My wife and I will handle our own sins.

This will not stop us from speaking our mind on issues which we are concerned about, or beliefs that we hold.
I'll re-read The Sermon On The Mount, since your bible quotations have seemed at best sketchy in the past.

my quotes are always from the King James version and they're not sketchy, they may not be from your version....but they're in there

FYI i have no problem with you and your wife, i'm happy you two are happy together.....but I can use the bible to judge you too...

swordfish

03-28-2007, 10:10 PM

My friend was born bi-sexual... I call him greedy.

pnkpanther

03-28-2007, 10:22 PM

just one more thing on my "sketchy" bible versus

Every time i quote the bible, i reference the book,chapter, and verse...feel free to post links to those calling me a liar

and if i dont, I do say "going by memory" could be wrong...and when I am, have admitted it..

I've taken my share of grief for not having everything i cite sourced, apparently i'm held at a higher standard

hannitykillspuppies

03-29-2007, 01:18 PM

can anyone tell me when they chose to be straight? what prompted this significant life choice?

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 01:32 PM

can anyone tell me when they chose to be straight? what prompted this significant life choice?

Do you want details?

Think long before you answer that.

hannitykillspuppies

03-29-2007, 01:33 PM

Do you want details?

Think long before you answer that.

yes.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 01:35 PM

yes.

Bathtub....Little cleaning...Hmmm...That feels good....Let's do that again....What was THAT?!? :eek: I'm calling Julie.

hannitykillspuppies

03-29-2007, 01:37 PM

Bathtub....Little cleaning...Hmmm...That feels good....Let's do that again....What was THAT?!? :eek: I'm calling Julie.

so beating off in the shower made you straight?

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 01:38 PM

so beating off in the shower made you straight?

I could've called Fred.

hannitykillspuppies

03-29-2007, 01:43 PM

I could've called Fred.

seems like the calling was an after thought. maybe you're really asexual.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 01:45 PM

seems like the calling was an after thought. maybe you're really asexual.

Now? Sure.

LSU

03-29-2007, 01:56 PM

My nephew chose to be left-handed. What a fucking deviant he is.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 02:00 PM

can anyone tell me when they chose to be straight? what prompted this significant life choice?

Well, I'll bite...You're volleyball setting up this answer (or lack thereof)...Why not just continue on with the point you're trying to make?

If a Catholic, such as myself, views sleeping with a man as a sin....Does that change with the fact that it is a choice or predefined at birth? And furthermore, viewing it as a sin, is that the wrongdoing? Viewing something as bad does not change love, ya know. My sister goes out and kills someone tomorrow, do I love her less? No.

Go on man...Say what ya gotta say. If the point of this is that there are bigoted assholes in the world...Well...What the hell else is new?

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 02:03 PM

My nephew chose to be left-handed. What a fucking deviant he is.

Make sure he calls his "Julie" with his right hand.

hannitykillspuppies

03-29-2007, 02:13 PM

Well, I'll bite...You're volleyball setting up this answer (or lack thereof)...Why not just continue on with the point you're trying to make?

If a Catholic, such as myself, views sleeping with a man as a sin....Does that change with the fact that it is a choice or predefined at birth? And furthermore, viewing it as a sin, is that the wrongdoing? Viewing something as bad does not change love, ya know. My sister goes out and kills someone tomorrow, do I love her less? No.

Go on man...Say what ya gotta say. If the point of this is that there are bigoted assholes in the world...Well...What the hell else is new?

i'm just curious about what would make someone believe that not just one or two, a handful, a couple thousand, not hundreds of thousands, but million of people would wake up one day say to themselves, "you know what i'm tired of being viewed as a normal person in society, instead i would rather go each day for the rest my life facing prejudice, bigotry, and some instances flat out hate from the overwhelming majority of people in this world." i just don't see the logic in that.

pnkpanther

03-29-2007, 02:27 PM

IBC

03-29-2007, 02:36 PM

My friend was born bi-sexual... I call him greedy.
funny

MTVike

03-29-2007, 02:37 PM

to recap

homosexuality, beastiality, adultrey all wrong bible

Ryr doesnt rank level's of wrongness, all equally wrong and deviant.

and according to Jesus's sermon

It was said, "Whoever sends his wife away, let him give her a certificate of divorce."
But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Marrying a divorced women (no mention of a divorced man, then again, bible didnt like women so much) is adultrey

So marrying a women who is previously divorced is just as bad as homosexuality, and fucking a dead deer.

I think I'm clear on this now.

Interesting. The Catholic church has never been comfortable with divorce. Probably because of what you quote above. I think they do allow people to anul their marriages, which means the marriage was never considered "valid". Obviously that's a politcal issue and gets widely abused as a concept. My friend, who is very Catholic, has his marriage annulled after 7 years. Trouble is, he had a daughter. Is she invalid, too?

Most protestant denominations don't struggle with divorce as much, but I wonder why, since many tend to read the Bible more literally than Catholics.

IBC

03-29-2007, 02:37 PM

hannitykillspuppies

03-29-2007, 02:39 PM

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 02:40 PM

Interesting. The Catholic church has never been comfortable with divorce. Probably because of what you quote above. I think they do allow people to anul their marriages, which means the marriage was never considered "valid". Obviously that's a politcal issue and gets widely abused as a concept. My friend, who is very Catholic, has his marriage annulled after 7 years. Trouble is, he had a daughter. Is she invalid, too?

Most protestant denominations don't struggle with divorce as much, but I wonder why, since many tend to read the Bible more literally than Catholics.

I thought you could only annul a marriage if y'all didn't jump in the sack?

pnkpanther

03-29-2007, 02:40 PM

Interesting. The Catholic church has never been comfortable with divorce. Probably because of what you quote above. I think they do allow people to anul their marriages, which means the marriage was never considered "valid". Obviously that's a politcal issue and gets widely abused as a concept. My friend, who is very Catholic, has his marriage annulled after 7 years. Trouble is, he had a daughter. Is she invalid, too?

Most protestant denominations don't struggle with divorce as much, but I wonder why, since many tend to read the Bible more literally than Catholics.

well i dont believe what i posted...

if so, both of my parents are going to hell....

LSU

03-29-2007, 02:41 PM

I thought you could only annul a marriage if y'all didn't jump in the sack?

That's what I thought, too.

But, if it suits a need, I suppose things can be changed.

hannitykillspuppies

03-29-2007, 02:47 PM

I thought you could only annul a marriage if y'all didn't jump in the sack?

that's the way it's supposed to be. much like the rest of the world, things pertaining to the church don't always work the way they're supposed. and like most things in the world, an annullment can be bought.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 02:52 PM

that's the way it's supposed to be. much like the rest of the world, things pertaining to the church don't always work the way they're supposed. and like most things in the world, an annullment can be bought.

Tell me about it...Used to hold a hard ground on interest, way before our times...Seeing paying for something twice as a BAD thing, rather than a money-making one....F*cking chicken sh*ts. Hold some f*cking ground.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 02:57 PM

That's what I thought, too.

But, if it suits a need, I suppose things can be changed.

There is no Church without a good marketing plan. :eek:

Sadly, believing in a higher power has been tarnished by the works of man, thus allowing for abuse by those using....rationale...Most arguers will denounce those who believe in a higher power because of the actions of those that follow said higher power....

I see the point of view more clearly now as I age and watch humans at work...but whenever life gets tough, I still look to the sky and know that someone is up there watching over things...Now I just wonder what the hell he/she was thinking...

Lots of answers I'll be looking for when I croak....

hannitykillspuppies

03-29-2007, 03:05 PM

There is no Church without a good marketing plan. :eek:

Sadly, believing in a higher power has been tarnished by the works of man, thus allowing for abuse by those using....rationale...Most arguers will denounce those who believe in a higher power because of the actions of those that follow said higher power....

I see the point of view more clearly now as I age and watch humans at work...but whenever life gets tough, I still look to the sky and know that someone is up there watching over things...Now I just wonder what the hell he/she was thinking...

Lots of answers I'll be looking for when I croak....

you should have gone to 13 years of private catholic school, you would have seen it much, much sooner.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 03:29 PM

you should have gone to 13 years of private catholic school, you would have seen it much, much sooner.

How about I one-up you with 16? 8 years grammar...4 years high (all boys high) and 4 years college.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 04:12 PM

Well, when you compare homosexuality to cornholing a dog...well...can't expect much.
wasn't it a turtle?

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 04:14 PM

wasn't it a turtle?
http://images.paulpellerito.com/turtlescrew.png

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 04:28 PM

well i dont believe what i posted...

if so, both of my parents are going to hell....

Jesus also said that there is forgiveness for all with prayer. I don't feel like quoting or looking up scripture because I just got home and I'm tired.

Murderers, adulterers, homosexuals, all sins can be forgiven.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 04:31 PM

Jesus also said that there is forgiveness for all with prayer. I don't feel like quoting or looking up scripture because I just got home and I'm tired.

Murderers, adulterers, homosexuals, all sins can be forgiven.
What about those that don't believe than anybody has a right to judge them, and especially not a Jesus they don't believe in?

pnkpanther

03-29-2007, 04:35 PM

Jesus also said that there is forgiveness for all with prayer. I don't feel like quoting or looking up scripture because I just got home and I'm tired.

Murderers, adulterers, homosexuals, all sins can be forgiven.

what if my father believes he has commited no sin?

I dont believe you've sinned by marrying your current wife and have nothing to repent for.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 04:35 PM

what if my father believes he has commited no sin?

I dont believe you've sinned by marrying your current wife and have nothing to repent for.

Are you the judge?

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 04:37 PM

Are you the judge?
I am the only judge of myself. Only I can make myself feel sorry for my actions.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 04:39 PM

What about those that don't believe than anybody has a right to judge them, and especially not a Jesus they don't believe in?

Well, through choice they're on their own. If they're right (which they aren't) when they die it's all over.

They are probably a little bit like this guy:
'm not scared of dying,
And I don't really care.
If it's peace you find in dying,
Well then let the time be near.
If it's peace you find in dying,
And if dying time is here,
Just bundle up my coffin
'Cause it's cold way down there.
I hear that its cold way down their.
Yeah, crazy cold way down their.

[Chorus:]
And when I die, and when I'm gone,
There'll be one child born
In this world to carry on,
to carry on.

Now troubles are many, they're as deep as a well.
I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell.
Swear there ain't no heaven and I pray there ain't no hell,
But I'll never know by living, only my dying will tell.
Yes only my dying will tell.
Yeah, only my dying will tell.

[Chorus]

Give me my freedom for as long as I be.
All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.
All I ask of living is to have no chains on me,
And all I ask of dying is to go naturally.
Oh I want to go naturally.

Here I go,
Hey Hey!
Here comes the devil,
Right Behind.
Look out children,
Here he comes!
Here he comes! Hey...

Don't want to go by the devil.
Don't want to go by demon.
Don't want to go by Satan,
Don't want to die uneasy.
Just let me go naturally.

and when I die,
When I'm dead, dead and gone,
There'll be one child born in our world to carry on,
To carry on.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 04:40 PM

I am the only judge of myself. Only I can make myself feel sorry for my actions.

Reminds me of a joke my wife and I have going:

Me: Wouldn't it be nice to just grab this thing and run?

Wife: Yeah, but that's stealing.

Me: Well, you should do it.

Wife: Why?

Me: Because you won't have to burn in hell.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 04:46 PM

what if my father believes he has commited no sin?

I dont believe you've sinned by marrying your current wife and have nothing to repent for.

I believe divorcing my first wife was a sin, no matter how much hell I was going through. I caused pain for people. I could have saved their pain and endured the pain myself. I chose not to. That is selfishness, and therefore a sin.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 04:58 PM

I believe divorcing my first wife was a sin, no matter how much hell I was going through. I caused pain for people. I could have saved their pain and endured the pain myself. I chose not to. That is selfishness, and therefore a sin.

http://cache.consumerist.com/consumer/images/Spong-Of-Satan.jpg

MTVike

03-29-2007, 05:06 PM

I thought you could only annul a marriage if y'all didn't jump in the sack?

I believe one of the Kennedy's pulled this off years ago and started the ball rolling.

Scandalous.

pnkpanther

03-29-2007, 05:12 PM

Are you the judge?

not in least, and i'm 100% positive that ryr could give a shit if i approve or not

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 05:47 PM

I believe one of the Kennedy's pulled this off years ago and started the ball rolling.

Scandalous.

Jews have nothing on Catholics when it comes to being all about the money.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 05:58 PM

Jews have nothing on Catholics when it comes to being all about the money.

Protestants are up there. They don't even have history to fall back on.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 06:01 PM

Protestants are up there. They don't even have history to fall back on.

Everyone says about Jews and money. That's an absolute myth. I'm the poorest guy I know.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 06:02 PM

Everyone says about Jews and money. That's an absolute myth. I'm the poorest guy I know.

I have Jewish friends that are quite rich and I have Jewish friends that I wouldn't consider rich at all. Pretty much like any other group.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 06:03 PM

I have Jewish friends that are quite rich and I have Jewish friends that I wouldn't consider rich at all. Pretty much like any other group.

I think the stereotype is more that they're cheap unless dealing with their own....not necessarily "rich" per se...

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 06:03 PM

I think the stereotype is more that they're cheap unless dealing with their own....not necessarily "rich" per se...

I think it's a little of both. Both being cheap, and being good with money. I can tell you I am neither:D

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 06:07 PM

I have Jewish friends that are quite rich and I have Jewish friends that I wouldn't consider rich at all. Pretty much like any other group.

Let's not disprove a stereotype. I don't know any poor Jews.

I've also never seen a poor homosexual.

I'm not saying that Jews are homosexual, but some groups seem to stick together better than others.

I've also never seen a Mennonite or an Amish person hire a contractor to build a barn.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 06:08 PM

Let's not disprove a stereotype. I don't know any poor Jews.

I've also never seen a poor homosexual.

I'm not saying that Jews are homosexual, but some groups seem to stick together better than others.

I've also never seen a Mennonite or an Amish person hire a contractor to build a barn.

I've worked with a Mennonite contractor building barns. I'm serious.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 06:09 PM

I don't even know what the hell a mennonite is....Can I bash them for being like Babylonians?

Vegas

03-29-2007, 06:10 PM

I don't even know what the hell a mennonite is....Can I bash them for being like Babylonians?

They're like a cross between the Amish and Baptists. That's about the best I can explain.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 06:10 PM

I've worked with a Mennonite contractor building barns. I'm serious.

But he was building barns, not hiring them built, correct?

I knew a Mennonite girl once. I envy the Mennonites. Those girls on on fire.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 06:10 PM

Let's not disprove a stereotype. I don't know any poor Jews.

I've also never seen a poor homosexual.

I'm not saying that Jews are homosexual, but some groups seem to stick together better than others.

I've also never seen a Mennonite or an Amish person hire a contractor to build a barn.

It's funny that you've never seen a poor Jew since the word Ghetto was originally used to describe poor Jewish neighborhoods.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 06:11 PM

But he was building barns, not hiring them built, correct?

I knew a Mennonite girl once. I envy the Mennonites. Those girls on on fire.

He was building them, you are correct.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 06:13 PM

It's funny that you've never seen a poor Jew since the word Ghetto was originally used to describe poor Jewish neighborhoods.

No, funny would be

A priest, a Pentecostal preacher and a Rabbi all served as chaplains to
the students of Northern Michigan University in Marquette.

They would get together two or three times a week for coffee and to
talk shop.

One day, someone made the comment that preaching to people isn't really
all that hard. A real challenge would be to preach to a bear.

One thing led to another and they decided to do an experiment. They
would all go out into the woods, find a bear, preach to it, and attempt to
convert it.

Seven days later, they're all together to discuss the experience.
Father Flannery, who has his arm in a sling, is on crutches, and has
various bandages on his body and limbs, goes first. "Well," he says, "I
went into the woods to find me a bear. And when I found him I began to
read to him from the Catechism. Well, that bear wanted nothing to do
with me and began to slap me around. So I quickly grabbed my holy water,
sprinkled him and, Holy Mary Mother of God, he became as gentle a lamb.
The bishop is coming out next week to give him first communion and
confirmation."

Reverend Billy Bob spoke next. He was in a wheelchair, with an arm and
both legs in casts, and an IV drip. In his best fire and brimstone
oratory he claimed, " WELL brothers, you KNOW that we don't sprinkle! I went
out and I FOUND me a bear. And then I began to read to my bear from God's
HOLY WORD! But that bear wanted nothing to do with me. So I took HOLD of him
and we began to wrestle. We wrestled down one hill, UP another and DOWN
another until we came to a creek.

So I quick DUNKED him and BAPTIZED his hairy soul. And just like you
said, he became as gentle as a lamb. We spent the rest of the day praising
Jesus."

They both looked down at the rabbi, who was lying in a hospital bed.
He was in a body cast and traction with IV's and monitors running in
and out of him. He was in bad shape.

The rabbi looks up and says, "Looking back on it, circumcision may not
have been the best way to start."

I just don't know a lot of Jews. The ones I knew were well to do.

Same deal with the homos.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 06:15 PM

I just don't know a lot of Jews. The ones I knew were well to do.

Same deal with the homos.
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Don't compare Jews with homos. Remember, Jesus was born a Jew, he wasn't born a home:p

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 06:17 PM

Don't compare Jews with homos. Remember, Jesus was born a Jew, he wasn't born a home:p

I think I just discovered your true identita. Sneaky...VERY sneaky.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 06:25 PM

I think I just discovered your true identita. Sneaky...VERY sneaky.

The massive spelling and grammar mistakes gave it away?

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 06:33 PM

The massive spelling and grammar mistakes gave it away?

Indeed homeboy.

:confused:

:p

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 06:34 PM

Indeed homeboy.

:confused:

:p

I wonder if I am who you think I am. I doubt it, but I'm not sure.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 06:35 PM

I wonder if I am who you think I am. I doubt it, but I'm not sure.

I know, but I cheated. I can look up all of the IPs.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 06:39 PM

I wonder if I am who you think I am. I doubt it, but I'm not sure.

Take your shirt off and I'll tell you.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 06:42 PM

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 06:43 PM

I know who everyone is, everyday.

Because of course I have to look them up, everyday.

It is good that there are more than 5 and I have to look them up.

It is bad that I can't remember them, or how many home runs Pujols had last year, but I can remember the smell of my first girlfriend.

Or not.

I probably should have kept the SB's name, but I wanted something a little bit different for the political board. That way I can annoy Ryr under two great names.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 06:46 PM

I probably should have kept the SB's name, but I wanted something a little bit different for the political board. That way I can annoy Ryr under two great names.

Keep the batteries in your ipod, they're not for throwing.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 06:47 PM

Keep the batteries in your ipod, they're not for throwing.

Sorry, couldn't hear you, too busy listening to the booing of Santa Claus on a loop.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 06:48 PM

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 06:51 PM

Is it Fan?

Oh hell no.

There are some people that will get immediately discharged when found out. He's one. Drulz is one. Fahvra is one. Dogmeat is one. Manny is one (we have private messages)

There are others but those right off the top of my head.

Fan got to post on retrocon for awhile, but then he just couldn't stand himself and had to point out my sports-boards hypocritical actions.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 06:51 PM

Is it Fan?

That's hysterical. My bet is that it is not fan. And if you ask a couple of more times you'll get banned.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 07:11 PM

That's hysterical. My bet is that it is not fan. And if you ask a couple of more times you'll get banned.

Hey, he busted out the "Or not"....He can only blame himself.

MTVike

03-29-2007, 07:22 PM

Hey, he busted out the "Or not"....He can only blame himself.

Shouting distance from ESP*** is about as close as Fan gets nowadays.

As far as I know anyway.

He was never the smurf type though, I'm pretty sure about that.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 07:24 PM

Shouting distance from ESP*** is about as close as Fan gets nowadays.

As far as I know anyway.

He was never the smurf type though, I'm pretty sure about that.

He had about 4 name tries at retrocon, and a few on SB.

He'll try to torment a guy if you don't go along with his whole freedom of speech in a private environment idea.

MTVike

03-29-2007, 07:33 PM

He had about 4 name tries at retrocon, and a few on SB.

He'll try to torment a guy if you don't go along with his whole freedom of speech in a private environment idea.

Way to shatter all my preconceived notions about him.

Guess I saw him in my own naive way.

"Freedom of speech" sure, but on a message board that enforces its TOS. A lot of people just aren't used to that.

Funny thing is, S-B's thrives, while the boards that let shit go usually go down in flames.

Crushed under their free speech notions.

People need fences around their behavior, whether they admit it or not.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 07:43 PM

This thread has been hijacked more times and in more ways than any other.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:18 PM

This thread has been hijacked more times and in more ways than any other.

Your welcome.

swordfish

03-29-2007, 08:21 PM

Wading through these posts I see a common theme. A politician is attacked for his lifestyle. Thread turns to a defense of homosexuals, then attacks ryr for being divorced. These discussions are humorous at best. Some of you tools need to start a thread called, WTF are we talking about.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 08:21 PM

Your welcome.

I don't even get sullies for it.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:25 PM

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 08:30 PM

Sounds like a guy whose home is devaluing each second that passes...

I prefer toolbox.

My home is appreciating so much, I could almost quit my job.

LSU

03-29-2007, 08:32 PM

My guess is that Reagan = Dom.

Mainly because I know Dom likes the political arena, and the reference to booing santa.

But if that's not the case, Dom needs to get his fat ass over here.

Fatty.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 08:35 PM

My guess is that Reagan = Dom.

Mainly because I know Dom likes the political arena, and the reference to booing santa.

But if that's not the case, Dom needs to get his fat ass over here.

Fatty.

http://sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110222

Page #2.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 08:39 PM

Sounds like a guy whose home is devaluing each second that passes...

I prefer toolbox.
It always comes back to home prices.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 08:40 PM

It always comes back to home prices.

And how they are going down. Except for mine that's going up.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 08:43 PM

And how they are going down. Except for mine that's going up.

I'm going to buy property in Jiddy's area just for me and the family to vacation at.
They're giving it away.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:43 PM

It always comes back to home prices.

It always hits....home. :cool:

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:44 PM

I'm going to buy property in Jiddy's area just for me and the family to vacation at.
They're giving it away.

You'll be sorry.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 08:44 PM

I'm going to buy property in Jiddy's area just for me and the family to vacation at.
They're giving it away.

If they're giving it away now, I'm going to wait until it drops some more and they pay me to take it.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:44 PM

And how they are going down. Except for mine that's going up.

Down.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:45 PM

If they're giving it away now, I'm going to wait until it drops some more and they pay me to take it.

You'll be sorry too.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 08:45 PM

If they're giving it away now, I'm going to wait until it drops some more and they pay me to take it.

Amen. Any chance we can get Jeb to be governor again?

I've liked him ever since he answered an e-mail I sent him.

LSU

03-29-2007, 08:45 PM

http://sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110222

Page #2.

fuzzlesticks.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 08:47 PM

My guess is that Reagan = Dom.

Mainly because I know Dom likes the political arena, and the reference to booing santa.

But if that's not the case, Dom needs to get his fat ass over here.

Fatty.
I was surprised to learn the owner of this new great name.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:47 PM

I still think it's YOM. Almost 100%...Home...Homo...Reference. Giveaway.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 08:48 PM

I'm going to buy property in Jiddy's area just for me and the family to vacation at.
They're giving it away.
I want something with water views.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:48 PM

Amen. Any chance we can get Jeb to be governor again?

I've liked him ever since he answered an e-mail I sent him.

Bite your tongue.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 08:48 PM

I still think it's YOM. Almost 100%...Home...Homo...Reference. Giveaway.

Way too liberal to be yom.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:50 PM

Way too liberal to be yom.

Says you.

LSU

03-29-2007, 08:51 PM

Way too liberal to be yom.

jcarm

or

pitpen

can't be phila...too many somewhat rational ideas and thoughts.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 08:52 PM

Reminds me, I need to search out one of YOM's fantasy baseball e-mail addys and drop him a line about the site. I sent one to his USMC acct. and got told to speak with other officers as he was unavailable.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 08:52 PM

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 08:52 PM

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 08:53 PM

Vegas

03-29-2007, 08:53 PM

Nope, you're looking in the all wrong places;)

I'm not going to give it away.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:53 PM

Nope, you're looking in the all wrong places;)

I own you YOM. OWN. If you're not YOM...Then both you and I own YOM. Nothing changes but more ownage.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 08:53 PM

Way too liberal to be yom.
not abrasive enough

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:55 PM

not abrasive enough

That's what I thought...but YOM is a tricky one. I could see a tone down...but he wants to be here...He NEEDS to be here. He knows it as well as we do. I remember most of his threads on s-b.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 08:55 PM

I own you YOM. OWN. If you're not YOM...Then both you and I own YOM. Nothing changes but more ownage.

Sorry, don't have enough balls to be in the military

LSU

03-29-2007, 08:56 PM

Sorry, don't have enough balls to be in the military

Josh Bidwell?

LSU

03-29-2007, 08:57 PM

Oh.

Lifer.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 08:57 PM

Oh.

Lifer.

God Forbid

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 08:57 PM

Oh.

Lifer.

I believe Lifer to be a member here.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 08:58 PM

I know when you get it, it'll be like who the hell is that:(

LSU

03-29-2007, 08:58 PM

I believe Lifer to be a member here.

Hmm. Missed that one.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 08:59 PM

I know when you get it, it'll be like who the hell is that:(
You're so money and you don't even know it.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 08:59 PM

I know when you get it, it'll be like who the hell is that:(

suburbanwmd

LSU

03-29-2007, 08:59 PM

I know when you get it, it'll be like who the hell is that:(

I just got caught up in the moment.

I'll figure it out eventually. Or not. Whichever doesn't come first.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 09:00 PM

Sorry, don't have enough balls to be in the military

That's wrong.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 09:01 PM

You're so money and you don't even know it.

I think I do, I've always been on the outside, even when I'm on the inside.

Jiddy78

03-29-2007, 09:01 PM

That's wrong.

Speaking of...Is a missing nut grounds for draft avoidance?

LSU

03-29-2007, 09:01 PM

All I know is that having to delete the www in the address all the time is going to make me take my evolution elsewhere.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 09:01 PM

That's wrong.

I don't. I wish I did, but I don't. I respect the hell out of those who have the guts to do it. I don't. But the balls, I think they would 4-F me for my bad back.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 09:07 PM

All I know is that having to delete the www in the address all the time is going to make me take my evolution elsewhere.

I thought you were the reason that roy put the www back in there?

Is Louisiana really that damn backwards?

<envisions gator carrying e-mail on his back to crawdad who leaves it at e-mail server>

LSU

03-29-2007, 09:09 PM

I thought you were the reason that roy put the www back in there?

Is Louisiana really that damn backwards?

<envisions gator carrying e-mail on his back to crawdad who leaves it at e-mail server>

Don't worry, I make due.

And feel free to kick me in the teeth, because I'm usually seething when other people sit and bitch about s-b sometimes having a few problems here and there.

My thought is, quit you fucking whining, it's just a couple extra mouse clicks, you lazy ass.

But don't worry, I'm telling myself that right now.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 09:09 PM

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 09:10 PM

Did you see "The Waterboy?"

Yes.

Good point.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 09:11 PM

LSU

03-29-2007, 09:12 PM

all I know is that everytime I bitch about it, it gets fixed.

Which will only lead to more bitching if I even think that alleviates it.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 09:12 PM

Speaking of...Is a missing nut grounds for draft avoidance?
don't ask, don't tell.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 09:14 PM

all I know is that everytime I bitch about it, it gets fixed.

Which will only lead to more bitching if I even think that alleviates it.
quit yer bitching.

I'm just pissed that when I hit quick reply that I have to scroll down to click the post button. That gets on my last nerve.

Vegas

03-29-2007, 09:14 PM

quit yer bitching.

I'm just pissed that when I hit quick reply that I have to scroll down to click the post button. That gets on my last nerve.

Same here.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 09:16 PM

Same here.
I need to make a checklist of things to fix.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 09:18 PM

I need to make a checklist of things to fix.

The last post arrows on the main page don't go to last post. You have to click the forum the thread is in, then if you click them they work.
No Today's Visitors module, I'm not smart enough to make it work.

Direct Cat5 line to Baton Rouge, with unlimited failsafes.

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 09:19 PM

The last post arrows on the main page don't go to last post. You have to click the forum the thread is in, then if you click them they work.
No Today's Visitors module, I'm not smart enough to make it work.

Direct Cat5 line to Baton Rouge, with unlimited failsafes.
It'll be a Cat 6 these days, but if we're going to plan for the future, better make it fiber.

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 09:20 PM

It'll be a Cat 6 these days, but if we're going to plan for the future, better make it fiber.

That shit's high dollar.

We'd better get paid subscriptions going also.

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 09:21 PM

That shit's high dollar.

We'd better get paid subscriptions going also.

Nice knowing yah

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 09:22 PM

Nice knowing yah

Voluntary of course, for the people requiring fiber optic technology with unlimited failsafes.

It will be quite pricey by the mile.

LSU

03-29-2007, 09:23 PM

Is that newbie that registered the liberal I think it is?

LSU

03-29-2007, 09:23 PM

Voluntary of course, for the people requiring fiber optic technology with unlimited failsafes.

It will be quite pricey by the mile.

Stop trying to silence me old man.

I'll show you a thing or t...

<disconnected>

ryr8828

03-29-2007, 09:25 PM

Is that newbie that registered the liberal I think it is?

That's up to him to reveal himself.

I'm glad he's here.

One of you geniuses should start a Reveal Yourself thread and see who comes clean.

LSU

03-29-2007, 09:28 PM

That's up to him to reveal himself.

I'm glad he's here.

One of you geniuses should start a Reveal Yourself thread and see who comes clean.

If he's the guy that went to battle with you on the old old site and then decided he was done talking politics, then I don't know who he is.

LSU

03-29-2007, 09:32 PM

One of you geniuses should start a Reveal Yourself thread and see who comes clean.

Think anyone's realized I'm not who I say I am?

Roy Munson

03-29-2007, 09:41 PM

Think anyone's realized I'm not who I say I am?
who are you?

LSU

03-29-2007, 09:43 PM

who are you?

Jroll

Reagan Smash

03-29-2007, 09:51 PM

Jroll

I can't hide it any more. I'm Francisco Pancho Villa

swordfish

03-29-2007, 10:08 PM

Maybe hes Santana, or was that Santa Anna.

Tom Joad

03-29-2007, 10:29 PM

If he's the guy that went to battle with you on the old old site and then decided he was done talking politics, then I don't know who he is.

You're probably right.

LSU

03-30-2007, 06:50 AM

You're probably right.

About not knowing who you are?

Curses!

Tom Joad

03-30-2007, 10:29 AM

About not knowing who you are?

Curses!

It depends on who you think or don't think I am. Of course, a curse is something I hope I have not become.

(I promise that I'm not Fan)

pnkpanther

03-30-2007, 12:02 PM

thrasymachus

03-30-2007, 12:09 PM

Hasn't the Gore issue been explained fairly well? And this Kerry issue is extremely old: try 3 years. (Sorry if either of these were mentioned already)

I guess we should prefer a politician who wants to sacrifice the lives of thousands of American soldiers in Iraq for the purpose of...

Wait. Why are we in Iraq?

Seriously, though. Politicians do some stupid stuff. We have to look at what they do that actually affects us when we judge them.

pnkpanther

03-30-2007, 12:10 PM

It depends on who you think or don't think I am. Of course, a curse is something I hope I have not become.

(I promise that I'm not Fan)

dmk or dkm or whatever

i'd go for a psuedo name, but i think i'd be spotted a mile away

Vegas

03-30-2007, 12:11 PM

pnkpanther

03-30-2007, 12:12 PM

You don't think that passing restrictive laws on energy use and high energy taxes won't affect us?

pay now or pay later

thrasymachus

03-30-2007, 12:13 PM

You don't think that passing restrictive laws on energy use and high energy taxes won't affect us?
I was speaking specifically of the whole "hypocrisy" issue. If you can call it hypocrisy.

Certainly those laws would affect us. In the long run, in a positive manner.

Vegas

03-30-2007, 12:18 PM

I was speaking specifically of the whole "hypocrisy" issue. If you can call it hypocrisy.

Certainly those laws would affect us. In the long run, in a positive manner.

To your first point, I don't see how you can not call it hypocrisy.

On your second point, you're assuming that the current warming trend is manmade, which is clearly not established. And I would ask whether you're aware that the people pushing for Kyoto are saying that full implementation would lower the projected temperatures by a whopping 0.07 degrees by 2050.

Tom Joad

03-30-2007, 12:20 PM

pay now or pay later

I prefer "laugh now, cry later" but I wholeheartedly agree.

I simply can't understand how someone WOULD NOT want to protect the environment. That's like saying, "I hate brushing my teeth because I want to enjoy the taste of dinner longer."

thrasymachus

03-30-2007, 12:26 PM

To your first point, I don't see how you can not call it hypocrisy.

On your second point, you're assuming that the current warming trend is manmade, which is clearly not established. And I would ask whether you're aware that the people pushing for Kyoto are saying that full implementation would lower the projected temperatures by a whopping 0.07 degrees by 2050.
1. Gore has explained his energy use and the fact that the energy he uses is 'clean energy,' that he actually helps produce energy also. Sorry if you think that means he's a hypocrite, because it actually looks like he's trying to do things positive for the environment.

2. I don't assume that global warming is manmade. In fact, I don't think it is manmade. But that doesn't mean that we have to continue to enhance the effect it has. Do you have a source for those numbers? In addition, it may seem minuscule to you, but any increase in the global average temperature is still pretty large. Think about when you start your car, how long does it take to increase the heat a few degrees. Now imagine a car the size of the Earth.

Vegas

03-30-2007, 12:37 PM

1. Gore has explained his energy use and the fact that the energy he uses is 'clean energy,' that he actually helps produce energy also. Sorry if you think that means he's a hypocrite, because it actually looks like he's trying to do things positive for the environment.

2. I don't assume that global warming is manmade. In fact, I don't think it is manmade. But that doesn't mean that we have to continue to enhance the effect it has. Do you have a source for those numbers? In addition, it may seem minuscule to you, but any increase in the global average temperature is still pretty large. Think about when you start your car, how long does it take to increase the heat a few degrees. Now imagine a car the size of the Earth.

1. Algore is a central point in the carbon offset scam. It's like a diet where you pay for the food that starving people are going to eat, but you eat the food anyway. And he's buying offsets from his own company.

2. http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Kyoto_Count_Up.html
Climate change is normal. There have been multiple periods of warming and cooling over the years. A variance of 0.07 degrees is barely measureable.

Tom Joad

03-30-2007, 12:52 PM

2. http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Kyoto_Count_Up.html
Climate change is normal. There have been multiple periods of warming and cooling over the years. A variance of 0.07 degrees is barely measureable.

JunkScience is a corporately funded website paid for by companies like Philip Morris.

thrasymachus

03-30-2007, 12:52 PM

1. Algore is a central point in the carbon offset scam. It's like a diet where you pay for the food that starving people are going to eat, but you eat the food anyway. And he's buying offsets from his own company.

2. http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Kyoto_Count_Up.html
Climate change is normal. There have been multiple periods of warming and cooling over the years. A variance of 0.07 degrees is barely measureable.
Why wouldn't he buy offsets from his own company? And by the way, what he does is still better than what most people are doing. So what's the point? Seriously. That he pollutes? Ok. Everyone does. He's doing something about it, though to try and reduce emissions, also. Sure, it's still not the best thing he could be doing, but it's an improvement compared to others.

I guess you don't see the problem. Let me ask, why does the study stop at 2050? Because that's what will affect us? Well that's pretty shortsighted. And while I won't dispute the number right now, I will say that I've heard that junkscience.com is not the most reputable website.

I'm not too worried about global warming for myself, but why shouldn't we make actions that can help decrease its rate? If your answer is because it's inconvenient to big businesses, then that is a bad answer.

Tom Joad

03-30-2007, 12:56 PM

And while I won't dispute the number right now, I will say that I've heard that junkscience.com is not the most reputable website.

Don't worry, I've already disputed it. :D

pnkpanther

03-30-2007, 01:05 PM

who here is eezy?

Vegas

03-30-2007, 01:06 PM

Why wouldn't he buy offsets from his own company? And by the way, what he does is still better than what most people are doing. So what's the point? Seriously. That he pollutes? Ok. Everyone does. He's doing something about it, though to try and reduce emissions, also. Sure, it's still not the best thing he could be doing, but it's an improvement compared to others.

I guess you don't see the problem. Let me ask, why does the study stop at 2050? Because that's what will affect us? Well that's pretty shortsighted. And while I won't dispute the number right now, I will say that I've heard that junkscience.com is not the most reputable website.

I'm not too worried about global warming for myself, but why shouldn't we make actions that can help decrease its rate? If your answer is because it's inconvenient to big businesses, then that is a bad answer.

You don't see that buying offsets is a non-solution? It's like saying that you can afford the ticket so you'll pay the fine. It doesn't reduce any pollution. It does nothing whatsoever to reduce emissions other than people can feel better about themselves. Nothing.

And the junkscience site is hardly the only one that mentions the 0.07 degree thing. That number is from the the same people pushing for Kyoto.

thrasymachus

03-30-2007, 01:09 PM

You don't see that buying offsets is a non-solution? It's like saying that you can afford the ticket so you'll pay the fine. It doesn't reduce any pollution. It does nothing whatsoever to reduce emissions other than people can feel better about themselves. Nothing.

And the junkscience site is hardly the only one that mentions the 0.07 degree thing. That number is from the the same people pushing for Kyoto.
I see carbon offsets as a problem because you're right that it does not reduce actual emissions, but would you at least admit that it's better than polluting the environment without buying the offsets? Which is what most people do. Isn't the person who pays the fine better than the person who ignores it?

Jiddy78

03-30-2007, 01:13 PM

who here is eezy?

I thought it was fairly obvious from the name and avatar.

pnkpanther

03-30-2007, 01:15 PM

I thought it was fairly obvious from the name and avatar.

i must be missing something

Jiddy78

03-30-2007, 01:21 PM

i must be missing something

Think like an Eezy. Review the top members. You'll get it.

hannitykillspuppies

03-30-2007, 01:24 PM

Hasn't the Gore issue been explained fairly well? And this Kerry issue is extremely old: try 3 years. (Sorry if either of these were mentioned already)

I guess we should prefer a politician who wants to sacrifice the lives of thousands of American soldiers in Iraq for the purpose of...

Wait. Why are we in Iraq?
Seriously, though. Politicians do some stupid stuff. We have to look at what they do that actually affects us when we judge them.

wmds. they are planning on looking under cheney's desk next week.

pnkpanther

03-30-2007, 01:26 PM

wmds. they are planning on looking under cheney's desk next week.

Voice Of God Revealed To Be Cheney On Intercom
December 7, 2005 | Issue 41•49

WASHINGTON, DC—Telephone logs recorded by the National Security Agency and obtained by Congress as part of an ongoing investigation suggest that the vice president may have used the Oval Office intercom system to address President Bush at crucial moments, giving categorical directives in a voice the president believed to be that of God.

President Bush sits at his desk in the Oval Office, where he received messages from an intercom voice identifying itself as "God" and thought to have been Vice President Cheney (below).
While journalists and presidential historians had long noted Bush's deep faith and Cheney's powerful influence in the White House, few had drawn a direct correlation between the two until Tuesday, when transcripts of meetings that took place in March and April of 2002 became available.

In a transcript of an intercom exchange recorded in March 2002, a voice positively identified as the vice president's identifies himself as "the Lord thy God" and promotes the invasion of Iraq, as well as the use of torture in prisoner interrogations.

A close examination of Bush's public statements and Secret Service time logs tracking the vice president reveals a consistent pattern, one which links Bush's belief that he had received word from God with Cheney's use of the White House's telephone-based intercom system.

Officials privately acknowledged that there is reason to believe that the vice president, as God, urged Bush to sign legislation benefiting oil companies in 2005.

"There's a lot of religious zeal in the West Wing," said a former White House staffer who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "It's possible that the vice president has taken advantage of that to fast-track certain administration objectives."

An ex-Treasury Department official and longtime friend of Cheney was asked to comment on the vice president's possible subterfuge. "I don't know. I certainly don't think it's something [Cheney] planned," he said. "I do know that Mr. Bush was unfamiliar with a phone-based intercom, and I suppose it is possible that Dick took advantage of that."

A highly placed NSA official who has reviewed the information released Tuesday said Cheney masked his clipped monotone, employing a deeper, booming voice.

Vice President Cheney.
Said the NSA source: "It sounded as though the speaker, who identified himself as God, stood away from the intercom to create an echo effect."

On Capitol Hill, sources are expressing surprise that Cheney, a vice president with more influence than any other in U.S. history, would have resorted to such deception.

"The vice president has a lot of sway in this administration," said a former White House aide. "But perhaps when President Bush was particularly resolute and resistant to mortal persuasion, the vice president chose to quickly resolve disputes in his favor with a half-decent God impression."

For many, the revelation explains Bush's confusion in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

"I was very surprised by the president's slow response in New Orleans," political commentator Bill Kristol said. "The president told me that he was praying every day in his office, but had received no reply. I had no idea what he meant, but of course, it all makes sense now."

At the time of Katrina, Cheney was on a fly-fishing trip, from which he returned on Sept. 1.

According to highly placed White House sources, Bush's senior advisers are trying to shield the president from the news. Aides are concerned that too harsh an awakening might shake Bush's faith, which has been a central part of his life for nearly 20 years.

"It's hard to tell the leader of the free world that he has been the butt of an elaborate and long-term ruse," a former staffer said. "Maybe it would be easier to take if it came from Cheney's God voice."