View Full Version : Soldier burned in effigy stirs outrage
Vegas
03-27-2007, 04:14 PM
http://www.ktvz.com/story.cfm?nav=oregon&storyID=18920
Some photos that surfaced on the Internet revealed a darker side of the recent Iraq war protests in Portland.
Photos taken by Rachael Palinkas, a Linfield College student, showed masked protesters burning an effigy of what appears to be a U.S. soldier in the Park Blocks.
Thousands marched in Portland downtown streets Sunday to protest the fourth anniversary of the start of the war. As the march along 24 blocks ended, a group of young people led police on bicycles, horses and motorcycles through downtown.
A few scuffles broke out, with police using pepper spray at one point, and several people were led away in plastic cuffs.
The photos showed protesters gathered around a figure wearing U.S. military fatigues and a crude skull for a head as it and an American flag were lit on fire.
Other black-clad, masked protesters carried a black banner that read, "No Gods, no country, no masters," and a circle A anarchy symbol.
Palinkas went to the protest march Sunday because some friends were going and she thought it a good opportunity to snap photos.
"I was shocked! Cause I haven’t seen anything like that before, you know, so I was kind of scared and confused like, ‘what's going on who are these people?’ I'd never seen anyone burn the American flag or any act of burning an effigy."
She published the pics Sunday on her Facebook account. The Drudge Report grabbed it Wednesday and it took off nationally.
She's received dozens of email in angry reaction to publishing the photos.
“They and their friends are not anti-war: they are for anyone opposing this country,” one viewer wrote in the Vanguard blog, where the photos appeared. “The people they hate most are the American soldiers (whom they term “mercenaries” and in a different era called “baby-killers”) who dare bring freedom to an oppressed people under our flag.”
There was no word on the identity of the protesters.
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Extremism sucks on both sides.
These guys aren't your average leftists. This is the first flag burned in America in years. It doesn't matter anyway, and it doesn't give justification to the war, or bring 3000+ dead soldiers back. I don't judge rightwingers by McVeigh.
swordfish
03-27-2007, 05:30 PM
This is truly sad. Any intelligent being would not associate these people with anyone other than anti-Americans. Soldiers follow orders. I love how anyone with a camera or any publicity can say and do things such as this without repercussions. Conversely if someone speaks out against a sin they are branded a hater by the media. I cannot speak for the scared sheep like masses, but I would not stand by and allow this to happen. When will America stand up and fight together? Let us not forget what America haters are capable of. Even if your the biggest conspiracy theorist out there you should realize that people who will do these things will also conspire against "US".
Reagan Smash
03-27-2007, 05:56 PM
These guys aren't your average leftists. This is the first flag burned in America in years. It doesn't matter anyway, and it doesn't give justification to the war, or bring 3000+ dead soldiers back. I don't judge rightwingers by McVeigh.
Except this story wont get any play outside of Fox News
Vegas
03-27-2007, 06:03 PM
Except this story wont get any play outside of Fox News
You've opened a can or worms. IBC loses it whenever Fox news is mentioned. He'd rather stick with really reliable sources like CBS news and the New York Times.
ryr8828
03-27-2007, 06:06 PM
You've opened a can or worms. IBC loses it whenever Fox news is mentioned. He'd rather stick with really reliable sources like CBS news and the New York Times.
dailyKOS.
Jiddy78
03-27-2007, 06:41 PM
You've opened a can or worms. IBC loses it whenever Fox news is mentioned. He'd rather stick with really reliable sources like CBS news and the New York Times.
They've got the prettiest graphics.
Yeah, I choose to avoid Fox. I don't buy into that crap. The fact that they have the least informed viewers of any major news source ought to tell you something.
Dailykos is admittedly partisan. Many sources I read from Vegas comes from a clearly partisan source. I don't believe I have ever posted anything from Kos here. Not because I despise it, just because you all will.
Jiddy78
03-28-2007, 09:02 AM
Yeah, I choose to avoid Fox. I don't buy into that crap. The fact that they have the least informed viewers of any major news source ought to tell you something.
Dailykos is admittedly partisan. Many sources I read from Vegas comes from a clearly partisan source. I don't believe I have ever posted anything from Kos here. Not because I despise it, just because you all will.
Do they have pretty graphics?
My personal favorite is CNBC, or CNBS as I like to call it....One continuous running ad for the greed of people....Hot broads totin' stocks...Some fat bald guy leading the sheeple over a cliff....and a game show that oozes greed, where people open suitcases with dollar amounts....F*cking genius.
But really, it's the commercials (especially those after 10 pm) that tip you off on what kind of dopes that channel's ownership thinks their target audience is....
hannitykillspuppies
03-28-2007, 11:13 AM
You've opened a can or worms. IBC loses it whenever Fox news is mentioned. He'd rather stick with really reliable sources like CBS news and the New York Times.
hard to believe. they are the complete opposite. they are fair and balanced. no far right slant in their reporting.
hard to believe. they are the complete opposite. they are fair and balanced. no far right slant in their reporting.
Yeah, and CBS and NYT are leftist organizations? NYT was practically a cheerleader for this illegal war.
Vegas
03-28-2007, 11:33 AM
hard to believe. they are the complete opposite. they are fair and balanced. no far right slant in their reporting.
Look at the whole picture. They have several liberals on the staff. The fact that they don't give the standard leftward slant is what drives some people crazy.
But they are still far more reliable news-wise than the New York Times and CBS.
Look at the whole picture. They have several liberals on the staff. The fact that they don't give the standard leftward slant is what drives some people crazy.
But they are still far more reliable news-wise than the New York Times and CBS.
MSNBC has plenty of conservatives on staff.
Look at the whole picture. They have several liberals on the staff. The fact that they don't give the standard leftward slant is what drives some people crazy.
But they are still far more reliable news-wise than the New York Times and CBS.
Liberals? Thats a frickin joke. They have a couple of moderates they use as punching bags. What, no comment about how Faux news viewers are the least informed of any viewers? You have got to be kidding me Vegas. More reliable news wise? Remember when they spent twice as much time covering Anna Nicole then Walter Reed? This was weeks after her death. They are a joke of a news organization.
Vegas
03-28-2007, 11:40 AM
Liberals? Thats a frickin joke. They have a couple of moderates they use as punching bags. What, no comment about how Faux news viewers are the least informed of any viewers? You have got to be kidding me Vegas. More reliable news wise? Remember when they spent twice as much time covering Anna Nicole then Walter Reed? This was weeks after her death. They are a joke of a news organization.
You can think whatever you want while you high five yourself watching CBS news -- the great symbol of news accuracy (and balance).
Liberals? Thats a frickin joke. They have a couple of moderates they use as punching bags. What, no comment about how Faux news viewers are the least informed of any viewers? You have got to be kidding me Vegas. More reliable news wise? Remember when they spent twice as much time covering Anna Nicole then Walter Reed? This was weeks after her death. They are a joke of a news organization.
The libs I can think of on Fox are Colmes and ...
Well, they do have contributors. Juan Williams and ...
I'm sure there are a few more, but I've stopped watching them.
I get my news from 2 people. Tim Russert and Chris Matthews. And John Stewart.
You can think whatever you want while you high five yourself watching CBS news -- the great symbol of news accuracy (and balance).
Katie is so objective, it pains many people to watch her.
Vegas
03-28-2007, 11:40 AM
The libs I can think of on Fox are Colmes and ...
Well, they do have contributors. Juan Williams and ...
I'm sure there are a few more, but I've stopped watching them.
I get my news from 2 people. Tim Russert and Chris Matthews. And John Stewart.
Stewart....that's a fine deal. It's absolutely stunning how many people rely on him for ALL of their news.
You can think whatever you want while you high five yourself watching CBS news -- the great symbol of news accuracy (and balance).
I don't watch CBS news. I listen to NPR, read our local newspaper (N + O), watch MSNBC and CNN, and read multiple news sources online.
If you are referring to the Bush story election year, refute it please. Not the document, the facts of the story.
Stewart....that's a fine deal. It's absolutely stunning how many people rely on him for ALL of their news.
You watch him don't you? Not saying that's where you get your news...
But that show is better than any I've seen tracing what politicians say back to what the said 2, 3, 4 weeks ago.
It's meant to be humorous, and they do some editing of some things, but a lot of times, they catch politicians in slip ups, change of hearts, and downright lies.
Now, I'm not going to argue there's some liberalness in that show. BUT. They mock the people in power. Right or left. And I've seen plenty of times where Stewart takes someone from the left to task.
Stewart....that's a fine deal. It's absolutely stunning how many people rely on him for ALL of their news.
Daily Show viewers outperform Faux viewers in understanding of current events. Faux news is balanced, if you believe the Earth is 6000 years old, evolution is totally wrong, global warming isn't happening, the death penalty and war rule but are prolife, and GW Bush has been a good president. In other words, 1/4 of the country.
Jiddy78
03-28-2007, 11:45 AM
Liberals? Thats a frickin joke. They have a couple of moderates they use as punching bags. What, no comment about how Faux news viewers are the least informed of any viewers? You have got to be kidding me Vegas. More reliable news wise? Remember when they spent twice as much time covering Anna Nicole then Walter Reed? This was weeks after her death. They are a joke of a news organization.
http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/03/fox-news-at-its-finest.html
Enjoy, my friend.
My personal faves:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_v63oTveUEGI/RfTUkht9DKI/AAAAAAAABSk/rXwL_G2ID0o/s1600/100hours.jpg
http://bp3.blogger.com/_v63oTveUEGI/RfOA_B3eqLI/AAAAAAAABQk/FG5GzwVKtXQ/s1600/shopshopshop.jpg
Jiddy78
03-28-2007, 11:46 AM
Although, this one has some "oomph" to it:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_v63oTveUEGI/RfN9Ph3ep1I/AAAAAAAABN0/9eCk0dDeWqM/s1600/cavutochen.JPG
Vegas
03-28-2007, 11:47 AM
You watch him don't you? Not saying that's where you get your news...
But that show is better than any I've seen tracing what politicians say back to what the said 2, 3, 4 weeks ago.
It's meant to be humorous, and they do some editing of some things, but a lot of times, they catch politicians in slip ups, change of hearts, and downright lies.
Now, I'm not going to argue there's some liberalness in that show. BUT. They mock the people in power. Right or left. And I've seen plenty of times where Stewart takes someone from the left to task.
I've watched Stewart and it's definitely entertaining. It's not unlike what Rush Limbaugh does as far as reviewing what politicians say and catching them in lies and slip ups. Rush does that to liberals almost exclusively of course.
http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/03/fox-news-at-its-finest.html
Enjoy, my friend.
My personal faves:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_v63oTveUEGI/RfTUkht9DKI/AAAAAAAABSk/rXwL_G2ID0o/s1600/100hours.jpg
http://bp3.blogger.com/_v63oTveUEGI/RfOA_B3eqLI/AAAAAAAABQk/FG5GzwVKtXQ/s1600/shopshopshop.jpg
Whats so unbalanced about that?
http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/03/fox-news-at-its-finest.html
Enjoy, my friend.
My personal faves:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_v63oTveUEGI/RfTUkht9DKI/AAAAAAAABSk/rXwL_G2ID0o/s1600/100hours.jpg
http://bp3.blogger.com/_v63oTveUEGI/RfOA_B3eqLI/AAAAAAAABQk/FG5GzwVKtXQ/s1600/shopshopshop.jpg
That's what I love about Fox and other channels. They get by with saying outrageous things, but posing it as a question.
"John Kerry conceded election. Was it because he molests sheep?"
They're not saying he molests sheep, they're simply asking if it's potentially a reason.
Stewart had a good bit regarding this stellar news thingamabob.
hannitykillspuppies
03-28-2007, 11:50 AM
Look at the whole picture. They have several liberals on the staff. The fact that they don't give the standard leftward slant is what drives some people crazy.
But they are still far more reliable news-wise than the New York Times and CBS.
they have alan colmes. and he's a moron.
what drives me crazy is that they piss and moan about media outlets spewing leftward slant but see nothing wrong with presenting a rightward slant.
Jiddy78
03-28-2007, 11:50 AM
Hey! My images disappeared.
Shenanigans.
I've watched Stewart and it's definitely entertaining. It's not unlike what Rush Limbaugh does as far as reviewing what politicians say and catching them in lies and slip ups. Rush does that to liberals almost exclusively of course.
So then it is completely different than what Rush does.
hannitykillspuppies
03-28-2007, 11:51 AM
Stewart....that's a fine deal. It's absolutely stunning how many people rely on him for ALL of their news.
at least it's honest.
So then it is completely different than what Rush does.
Well, I agree with Rush that we should prosecute drug users to the fullest extent of the law..... Hey, what was he doing down there in the Dominican Republic with a boatload of Viagra and no women? They are known for a large child sex trade aren't they? Guy is a class act.
hannitykillspuppies
03-28-2007, 11:56 AM
Daily Show viewers outperform Faux viewers in understanding of current events. Faux news is balanced, if you believe the Earth is 6000 years old, evolution is totally wrong, global warming isn't happening, the death penalty and war rule but are prolife, and GW Bush has been a good president. In other words, 1/4 of the country.
bill o'reilly says daily show viewers are stoned slackers. then a survey comes out that shows that daily show viewers are more likely to have 4 years of college education than o'reilly viewrs. priceless.
Jiddy78
03-28-2007, 11:57 AM
That's what I love about Fox and other channels. They get by with saying outrageous things, but posing it as a question.
"John Kerry conceded election. Was it because he molests sheep?"
They're not saying he molests sheep, they're simply asking if it's potentially a reason.
Stewart had a good bit regarding this stellar news thingamabob.
Kerry molests sheep....Bush molests sheeple....It's all good.
Nixon's Head
03-28-2007, 03:21 PM
Cool. Its nice to see folks speaking out in a positive manner.
ryr8828
03-28-2007, 05:01 PM
Well, I agree with Rush that we should prosecute drug users to the fullest extent of the law..... Hey, what was he doing down there in the Dominican Republic with a boatload of Viagra and no women? They are known for a large child sex trade aren't they? Guy is a class act.
How can you make a loaded unsubstantiated post like that and then call someone else a "class act"?
Child sex trade? Goodness gracious.
Maybe he was down there for grown men only. Now your party can worship him.
hannitykillspuppies
03-28-2007, 06:02 PM
How can you make a loaded unsubstantiated post like that and then call someone else a "class act"?
Child sex trade? Goodness gracious.
Maybe he was down there for grown men only. Now your party can worship him.
or if it was little boys your party could just cover it up for him.
How can you make a loaded unsubstantiated post like that and then call someone else a "class act"?
Child sex trade? Goodness gracious.
Maybe he was down there for grown men only. Now your party can worship him.
It was meant in jest. I am not really claiming that he molests children, just thought it would go in the spirit of the thread. Now I know your party wouldn't want him if he was a homosexual. Thats ok, we won't take him any which way.
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