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Vegas
03-27-2007, 11:47 AM
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3381839,00.html

The UN's Human Rights Commission has been told it is a hypocritical and prejudiced body which does nothing to help millions of people in need, due to its obsessive focus on demonizing Israel.

In a speech given during a session of the Human Rights Commission on March 23rd, Hillel Neuer, Director of UN Watch, delivered a scathing attack on the commission's track record, describing it as a "human rights nightmare."

Responding to the speech, the Council President Luis Alfonso De Alba said Neuer's speech fell short of "minimum proper conduct," adding that Neuer's comments were "inadmissible."



"Six decades ago, in the aftermath of the Nazi horrors, Eleanor Roosevelt, Rene Cassin, and other eminent figures gathered here on the banks of lake Geneva to reaffirm the principle of human dignity," Neuer said during his address.



"What has become of this noble dream?" he continued, adding: "In this session we see the answer. Faced with compelling reports from around the world, of torture, persecution, and violence against women, what has this council pronounced, what has it decided? Nothing."



"Its response has been silence. Its response has been indifference. Its response has been criminal. One might say, in Harry Truman's words, that this has become a do nothing, good for nothing council," Neuer added.



"But that would be inaccurate," he continued. "This council has, after all, done something. It has enacted one resolution after another, condemning one single state: Israel. In eight pronouncements, and there will be three more this session, Hamas and Hizbullah have been granted impunity. The entire rest of the world; millions upon millions of victims, in 191 countries continue to go ignored," Neuer said.



"So yes, this council has done something. And the Middle East dictators who orchestrate this campaign will tell you, it is a very good thing…. But do these self-proclaimed defenders really care about Palestinian rights?" Neuer asked.



'Council seeks to demonize Israeli democracy'

"Let us consider the past few months. More than 130 Palestinians have been killed by Palestinian forces. This is three times the combined total that were the pretexts of calling special sessions in July and November… Little three year-old boy Salam Balusha and his two brothers were murdered in their car by Prime Minister Haniyeh's troops. Why has this council chosen silence? Because Israel could not be blamed," Neuer declared.

"Because in truth, the despots who run this council couldn't care less about Palestinians or any human rights. They seek to demonize Israeli democracy. To delegitimize the Jewish state. To scapegoat the Jewish people. They also seek something else. To distort and pervert the very idea of human rights."

"You ask, what has become of the founders' dream… Mr President, with terrible lies, and moral inversion, this council is turning that dream into a nightmare," Neuer concluded.

"For the first time in the session ever, I won't express thanks to his statement," Council President De Alba said, with an agitated expression.

"I will not tolerate any similar statements in the council... all of this is inadmissible… I would urge you in any future statement to observe some minimum proper conduct and language. Otherwise any similar statements in tone will be stricken from the records," he added.

IBC
03-27-2007, 11:59 AM
Is there a reason why Israel has a problem with the UN?

Vegas
03-27-2007, 12:01 PM
Is there a reason why Israel has a problem with the UN?

The UN has probably issued more resolutions condemning Israel than any other country.

LSU
03-27-2007, 12:02 PM
The UN has probably issued more resolutions condemning Israel than any other country.


They should stop being naughty then.

Vegas
03-27-2007, 12:04 PM
They should stop being naughty then.

http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_74.html

IBC
03-27-2007, 12:12 PM
Yes I know Vegas. It was sarcasm. The UN tends to frown on bull-dozing neighborhoods. I am not anti-Israeli, just say they play a part in it as well, and it is inconvenient that the UN points that out. Just like Faux News viewers answered in polls that Israel loses the majority of the civilians in the conflict over there (not even close to true), many people blame the Palestinians solely for this conflict. There is plenty of blame to go around. I absolutely have problems with terror and using it, but I believe Israel uses it also. there are no rights in this conflict, only wrongs and death. As to the UN being anti-Israel. Hardly I think. Just balanced. Only my opinion here. I tend to side with those I feel are oppressed though.

Vegas
03-27-2007, 12:15 PM
Yes I know Vegas. It was sarcasm. The UN tends to frown on bull-dozing neighborhoods. I am not anti-Israeli, just say they play a part in it as well, and it is inconvenient that the UN points that out. Just like Faux News viewers answered in polls that Israel loses the majority of the civilians in the conflict over there (not even close to true), many people blame the Palestinians solely for this conflict. There is plenty of blame to go around. I absolutely have problems with terror and using it, but I believe Israel uses it also. there are no rights in this conflict, only wrongs and death. As to the UN being anti-Israel. Hardly I think. Just balanced. Only my opinion here. I tend to side with those I feel are oppressed though.

There are two facts that sum up the situation over there:

1) If the Arabs put down their guns, there would be no war.

2) If the Israelis put down their guns, there would be no Israel.

LSU
03-27-2007, 12:15 PM
I tend to side with those I feel are oppressed though.



The anti-manmade-global warmists?

LSU
03-27-2007, 12:15 PM
There are two facts that sum up the situation over there:

1) If the Arabs put down their guns, there would be no war.

2) If the Israelis put down their guns, there would be no Israel.



Since when is a prediction a fact?

IBC
03-27-2007, 12:19 PM
There are two facts that sum up the situation over there:

1) If the Arabs put down their rocks and bombs, there would be no Palestine.

2) If the Israelis put down their guns, helicopters, tanks, bulldozers, missles, jets, wmd's there would be no Israel.
I changed this to make it accurate.

Vegas
03-27-2007, 12:20 PM
I changed this to make it accurate.

So who are the "refugees?"

IBC
03-27-2007, 12:24 PM
So who are the "refugees?"
They both deserve a homeland, so neither should be.

Vegas
03-27-2007, 12:26 PM
They both deserve a homeland, so neither should be.

But who are the "Palestinians?"

IBC
03-27-2007, 12:27 PM
But who are the "Palestinians?"
Oh, I see. There is no Palestine huh?

Vegas
03-27-2007, 12:28 PM
Oh, I see. There is no Palestine huh?

I'm interested to know who you think the "Palestinians" are. It's a serious question.

IBC
03-27-2007, 12:33 PM
I'm interested to know who you think the "Palestinians" are. It's a serious question.

Look up the Palestinian Exodus, or the disaster. 700k + were displaced from there homeland in the creation of the state Israel. There descendants are the true Palestinians. Like I said, it is a complex problem with no really good solutions, and many good points on both sides.

Vegas
03-27-2007, 12:40 PM
Look up the Palestinian Exodus, or the disaster. 700k + were displaced from there homeland in the creation of the state Israel. There descendants are the true Palestinians. Like I said, it is a complex problem with no really good solutions, and many good points on both sides.

I have several friends from Israel and several friends that have moved to Israel. My perspective is based more on what I have learned from them. This article sums up that side fairly well:

http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_03b.html

IBC
03-27-2007, 12:47 PM
Yes, I do understand teh premise of that article. There have been many refugees who weren't there before. In 1850, however, the land that is now Israel was about 90% Muslim. That is another perspective. There is so much to take into account here, and it is surely the most difficult to solve conflict in the world today.

Vegas
03-27-2007, 01:24 PM
Yes, I do understand teh premise of that article. There have been many refugees who weren't there before. In 1850, however, the land that is now Israel was about 90% Muslim. That is another perspective. There is so much to take into account here, and it is surely the most difficult to solve conflict in the world today.

I believe you are correct.