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Marie
06-24-2008, 02:31 PM
NASA Scientist Calls for Oil Execs to be Tried for Crimes Against Humanity

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/24/headlines#2

NASA’s top climate scientist James Hansen warned Monday that the world has long passed the dangerous level for greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and that the earth is nearing a tipping point. Hansen said, “We’re toast if we don’t get on a very different path. This is the last chance.” He also called for the government to block the construction of new coal-fired plants. During an interview on NPR, Hansen called for the chief executives of oil companies to be tried for their role in spreading disinformation on climate change.

James Hansen: “The CEOs of these large energy companies are guilty of crimes against humanity if they continue to dispute what is understood scientifically and to fund contrarians and if they push us past tipping points that end up destroying many species on the planet and having a huge impact on humanity itself.”

It was twenty years ago this week when James Hansen first appeared before Congress to warn that global warming had already started. The year of Hansen’s original testimony, 1988, was the world’s hottest year on record. Since then, fourteen years have been hotter.

BoredWithNoSB
06-24-2008, 02:53 PM
They are either with us or against us dammit.

Sounds like another histerical nut job.

Extremism never accomplished anything good. This guy sounds more like a nutjob than he did in previous interviews making me less likely to believe his theories.

fahvra
06-24-2008, 02:56 PM
They are either with us or against us dammit.

Sounds like another histerical nut job.

Extremism never accomplished anything good. This guy sounds more like a nutjob than he did in previous interviews making me less likely to believe his theories.


hes more qualified to talk about it than anyone here.

BoredWithNoSB
06-24-2008, 03:03 PM
hes more qualified to talk about it than anyone here.

True, but there's a difference between me going:

"yeah, it was just irresponsible for the developer to leave that bug in and cost the company $$$," and to say "the developer is a danger to society and should be fired and sued for fruad because they left a bug in."

One statment gets my point across, the other is just being hysterical. I doubt this guy has much more knowledge of international law than most of us here, either.

Roy Munson
06-24-2008, 03:05 PM
True, but there's a difference between me going:

"yeah, it was just irresponsible for the developer to leave that bug in and cost the company $$$," and to say "the developer is a danger to society and should be fired and sued for fruad because they left a bug in."

One statment gets my point across, the other is just being hysterical. I doubt this guy has much more knowledge of international law than most of us here, either.
it could depend on if the bug was known and how many problems it caused.

BoredWithNoSB
06-24-2008, 03:30 PM
it could depend on if the bug was known and how many problems it caused.

The bug could not be reproduced 100% of the time and developers felt it was probably there, but couldn't be certain what was causing it. It could be that this developers code was bad, or just a feature of the OS.

The bug (if it existed) would really more of an inconvinience right now, but based on expected upgrades would cause huge problems and potentially bankrupt the company.

Again, though QA was pretty sure the bug was there and stumbled across signs of it, there was no definitive path to recreate and document it. The prgrammer who claimed it was the OS was summarily called a danger to society, though and told that instead of debugging the code, he'd be tried for his supposed actions.

Roy Munson
06-25-2008, 01:17 AM
The bug could not be reproduced 100% of the time and developers felt it was probably there, but couldn't be certain what was causing it. It could be that this developers code was bad, or just a feature of the OS.

The bug (if it existed) would really more of an inconvinience right now, but based on expected upgrades would cause huge problems and potentially bankrupt the company.

Again, though QA was pretty sure the bug was there and stumbled across signs of it, there was no definitive path to recreate and document it. The prgrammer who claimed it was the OS was summarily called a danger to society, though and told that instead of debugging the code, he'd be tried for his supposed actions.
Guilty as charged...