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IBC
04-19-2007, 03:59 PM
World Opposed to U.S. as Global Cop
by Eli Clifton

WASHINGTON - The world public rejects the U.S. role as a world leader, but still wants the United States to do its share in multilateral efforts and does not support a U.S. withdrawal from international affairs, says a poll released Wednesday.The survey respondents see the United States as an unreliable “world policeman”, but views are split on whether the superpower should reduce its overseas military bases.

The people of the United States generally agreed with the rest of the world that their country should not remain the world’s pre-eminent leader or global cop, and prefer that it play a more cooperative role in multilateral efforts to address world problems.

The poll, the fourth in a series released by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and WorldPublicOpinion.org since the latter half of 2006, was conducted in China, India, United States, Indonesia, Russia, France, Thailand, Ukraine, Poland, Iran, Mexico, South Korea, Philippines, Australia, Argentina, Peru, Israel, Armenia and the Palestinian territories.

The three previous reports covered attitudes toward humanitarian military intervention, labour and environmental standards in international trade, and global warming. Those surveys found that the international public generally favoured more multilateral efforts to curb genocides and more far-reaching measures to protect labour rights and combat climate change than their governments have supported to date.

Steven Kull, editor of WorldPublicOpinion.org, notes that this report confirms other polls which have shown that world opinion of the United States is bad and getting worse, however this survey more closely examines the way the world public would want to see Washington playing a positive role in the international community.

Although all 15 of the countries polled rejected the idea that, “the U.S. should continue to be the pre-eminent world leader in solving international problems,” only Argentina and the Palestinian territories say it “should withdraw from most efforts to solve international problems.”

The respondents tend to agree that the US should do “its share in efforts to solve international problems together with other countries” in: South Korea (79 percent), United States (75 percent), France (75 percent), China (68 percent), Israel (62 percent), Peru (61 percent), Mexico (59 percent), Armenia (58 percent), Philippines (55 percent), Ukraine (52 percent), Thailand (47 percent), India (42 percent) and Russia (42 percent).

In a majority of countries — 13 out of 15 — publics believe Washington is “playing the role of world policeman more than it should,” including France (89 percent), Australia (80 percent), China (77 percent), Russia (76 percent), Peru (76 percent), Palestinian territories (74 percent) and South Korea (73 percent).

Seventy-six percent of those polled in the United States also agree that their country plays too big a role as a global cop, but 57 percent of Filipinos disagreed with the statement, and Israelis were evenly split on the issue.

Majorities think that the United States cannot be trusted to “act responsibly in the world” in: Argentina (84 percent), Peru (80 percent), Russia (73 percent), France (72 percent) and Indonesia (64 percent). But majorities or large percentages in the Philippines (85 percent), Israel (81 percent), Poland (51 percent), and Ukraine (49 percent) say the superpower can be at least “somewhat” trusted to act responsibly.

Although most of the countries involved in the poll had majorities who believe the U.S. was too involved in policing issues of international concern, there were mixed views about whether it should reduce its military presence around the world. Only five out of 12 publics favoured decreasing the number of overseas U.S. military bases: Argentina (75 percent), Palestinian territories (70 percent), France (69 percent), China (63 percent) and Ukraine (62 percent).

Majorities in the Philippines (78 percent), United States (68 percent), Israel (59 percent) and Poland (54 percent) favour maintaining or increasing the current levels of U.S. military bases. Armenia and Thailand lean in favour of maintaining current levels or reducing base locations, while India was divided. No country favoured increases.

The survey clearly shows that the perception of the U.S. role in the world is negative and getting worse, but some publics did have significant numbers who felt relations between their country and the United States are getting better.

Most of the respondents in India (58 percent) and China (53 percent) felt relations were improving, while pluralities agree in Australia (50 percent), Armenia (48 percent), Indonesia (46 percent), and Thailand (37 percent). Majorities or pluralities in Poland (60 percent), South Korea (56 percent), Israel (52 percent), Ukraine (52 percent) and Russia (45 percent) say relations with the U.S. are about the same.

No countries had majorities or pluralities who say relations with the United States are getting worse.

Copyright © 2007 IPS-Inter Press Service.

Reagan Smash
04-19-2007, 04:06 PM
The United States shouldn't be the World Police unless the world needs them. That ship sailed years ago after World War II, when the United States had to become the big bad cop because Europe couldn't police themselves. Or when their was communist aggression, it must have been these other countries that lead the containment policy. You can't have the good with the bad, you can't have the United States as a safety net, then piss and moan when you find them to be too aggressive.

IBC
04-19-2007, 04:14 PM
The United States shouldn't be the World Police unless the world needs them. That ship sailed years ago after World War II, when the United States had to become the big bad cop because Europe couldn't police themselves. Or when their was communist aggression, it must have been these other countries that lead the containment policy. You can't have the good with the bad, you can't have the United States as a safety net, then piss and moan when you find them to be too aggressive.
I would disagree that the world needed us in "containing communism." That was and still is a disaster. Our intervention in the wars in Central America lead to many more innocent deaths. Read Massacre at El Mozote. It gives a good honest account of what we used to say never happened in El Salvador. Our containment intervention in Korea and Vietnam didn't work out too well either. Nor has it worked in Cuba. In fact, i would say the whole policy has been pretty shitty.

Reagan Smash
04-19-2007, 04:45 PM
I would disagree that the world needed us in "containing communism." That was and still is a disaster. Our intervention in the wars in Central America lead to many more innocent deaths. Read Massacre at El Mozote. It gives a good honest account of what we used to say never happened in El Salvador. Our containment intervention in Korea and Vietnam didn't work out too well either. Nor has it worked in Cuba. In fact, i would say the whole policy has been pretty shitty.

The Korean War was not a failure at all. It began the crack in Russian-China relations that eventually lead to the end of the Cold War.

ryr8828
04-19-2007, 05:13 PM
Majorities think that the United States cannot be trusted to “act responsibly in the world” in: Argentina (84 percent), Peru (80 percent), Russia (73 percent), France (72 percent) and Indonesia (64 percent). But majorities or large percentages in the Philippines (85 percent), Israel (81 percent), Poland (51 percent), and Ukraine (49 percent) say the superpower can be at least “somewhat” trusted to act responsibly.

That is freaking hilarious.

Reagan Smash
04-19-2007, 05:25 PM
I'm just curious, and here I go taking this off-topic, if someone asked you who the United States' 5 closest allies were, what would they be.

My guess

UK
Israel
Poland
Japan
Australia

IBC
04-19-2007, 07:44 PM
The Korean War was not a failure at all. It began the crack in Russian-China relations that eventually lead to the end of the Cold War.

Ok, I will concede that point, but ti didn't go well at all, and the byproducts of that war are still felt today.

i_hate_righties
04-19-2007, 08:01 PM
Ever notice how Canada gets along with everyone?...We should be more like Canada!

Iron Jaw
04-19-2007, 09:54 PM
Ever notice how Canada gets along with everyone?...We should be more like Canada!

I thought those from Quebec hated Canadians......and vice-versa.;)

i_hate_righties
04-19-2007, 11:34 PM
I thought those from Quebec hated Canadians......and vice-versa.;)

True, but you dont see the rest of Canada trying to invade Quebec, or vice-versa!

Reagan Smash
04-19-2007, 11:36 PM
True, but you dont see the rest of Canada trying to invade Quebec, or vice-versa!

That must be the French in them:D

ryr8828
04-19-2007, 11:47 PM
Ever notice how Canada gets along with everyone?...We should be more like Canada!

They have our protection.

Iron Jaw
04-20-2007, 12:16 AM
True, but you dont see the rest of Canada trying to invade Quebec, or vice-versa!

I recall those in Quebec talking about an independent nation at one time. Many western Canadians who I know personally claim to have more in common with the U.S. than their brethern in Quebec.

During the Winter here in Yuma, thousands of Canadian senior citizens flock to Arizona, particularly Yuma, to escape the cold (along with thousands of American seniors from the northern U.S.). When I was assigned as the Public Information Officer/Community Relations Officer, I had to give a speech about the Border Patrol to a large group of seniors, many of whom were Canadian.

I asked, "How many of you are Canadian," to which several raised their hands. Then I said, "I've been to Canada five times........correction.....I've been to Canada four times and Quebec once."

I received a standing ovation from the Canadians in the crowd.

I learned something else from the Canadians that I did not previously realize. During the Vietnam War when 50,000 Americans fled the U.S. and ran to Canada to avoid military service, approximately 60,000 Canadians came the other way and joined the American military. During the Korean and Vietnam Wars, Canadians, event those who were not Resident Aliens in the U.S., were allowed to enlist in the U.S. Military (similar to WWII when many Americans, prior to the American entry into the war, served with the Canadian and British military forces). Two of the Canadians in the crowd of seniors served with the Marines during the Vietnam War and advised me of that fact - verified by later research.

Now I joined the Marines in 1974 (the Viet cease-fire was in Jan. 1973 when I was still in high school). At that time we had only about 22,000 troops still in South Vietnam and the ARVN had completely taken charge of the fighting. And though I was involved in combat during the rescue of the U.S.S. Mayaguez and served in Saigon during the March-1975 evacuation, I did not know that non-U.S. Citizen or non-Resident Alien Canadians joined up during the war. The two I met, were very proud of their service with the Marines.