View Full Version : Bill Clinton Campaigning for Hillary
ryr8828
02-25-2008, 07:22 PM
Has Bill helped or hurt Hillary?
BoredWithNoSB
02-25-2008, 08:14 PM
The media's portrayal of Bill has hurt much more than Bill.
With all his talk about Obama fairytales, I think he offended even a lot of Hillary supporters
BoredWithNoSB
02-26-2008, 01:25 PM
With all his talk about Obama fairytales, I think he offended even a lot of Hillary supporters
I think he was being realistic. Obama is a farse. He's an idea, not a candidate. He's an idea that if we all close our eyes and hope really hard it'll be OK and we'll all get rich quick on the backs of the evil rich folks and that everyone will like us if we're nice.
It's a F*ing fairy tale. I don't see why stating the obvious is a bad thing.
This guy has been more of the problem than anyone else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Penn
You tried to play slimeball with a guy that most people like. Bad move. With all his experience he shoulda known better. Trippi called him the Democrat Karl Rove.
I think he was being realistic. Obama is a farse. He's an idea, not a candidate. He's an idea that if we all close our eyes and hope really hard it'll be OK and we'll all get rich quick on the backs of the evil rich folks and that everyone will like us if we're nice.
It's a F*ing fairy tale. I don't see why stating the obvious is a bad thing.
That is exactly what they said about Bill Clinton! So, it was hypocritical and a shame he said it about Obama. Obama addressed what was wrong with saying that in the CNN debate, it is calling "every major newspaper in Texas delusional." It is insulting to educated voters that HOPE is a fairytale!
There is NO way he could f*ck up MORE than Bush!
BoredWithNoSB
02-26-2008, 02:46 PM
Bill told the hard truth at times too. Everything wasn't hope, lollipops, and puppy dogs. Here are a few exerpts from his nomination speach in '92. You'll never hear Obama using ideas this 'harsh' as it doesn't fit in with his sunshiney day theme. Notice a theme of hard work and resposibility, not just hope.
I do want to say something to the fathers in this country who have chosen to abandon their children by neglecting their child support: Take responsibility for your children or we will force you to do so. Because governments don't raise children; parents do. And you should.
I call this approach the New Covenant, a solemn agreement between the people and their government based not simply on what each of us can take but what all of us must give to our Nation
I was raised to believe the American Dream was built on rewarding hard work. But we have seen the folks of Washington turn the American ethic on its head.
For too long those who play by the rules and keep the faith have gotten the shaft, and those who cut corners and cut deals have been rewarded.
More ideas in this one stretch than on Obama's whole site. How many budgets has Obama balanced? How many jobs does he say he'll cut in governemnt? Notice that Clinton had a plan, not just ideas:
Now, George Bush talks a good game, but he has no game plan to rebuild America, from the cities to the suburbs to the countryside, so that we can compete and win again in the global economy. I do.
He won't take on the big insurance companies and the bureaucracies to control health costs and give us affordable health care for all Americans, but I will.
He won't even implement the recommendations of his own commission on AIDS, but I will.
He won't streamline the federal government and change the way it works, cut 100,000 bureaucrats and put 100,000 new police officers on the streets of American cities, but I will.
He's never balanced a government budget, but I have 11 times.
He won't break the stranglehold the special interests have on our elections and the lobbyists have on our government, but I will.
He won't give mothers and fathers the simple chance to take some time off from work when a baby is born or a parent it sick, but I will.
We're losing our farms at a rapid rate, and he has no commitment to keep family farms in the family, but I do.
He's talked a lot about drugs, but he hasn't helped people on the front line to wage that war on drugs and crime. But I will.
He won't take the lead in protecting the environment and creating new jobs in environmental technologies for the 21st century, but I will.
You mean ObamaCare won't save the world?
But, my fellow Democrats, its time for us to realize we've got some changing to do too. There is not a program in government for every problem,
Admitted imperfections? I guess Obama has no need to do this:
Now, I don't have all the answers, but I do know the old ways don't work
Obama is no Bill Clinton, and that sucks for the party.
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