Anyone catch...

[Jiddy78]

...Hammerin' Hank Paulson on the Today show this morning?

Toutin' that Dubya's comin' on tonight to announce a new "Save our Scrapbooks" tax rebate....Too little too late fellas....but I guess it'll give 'em just enough time to sneak out the back door....

[BoredWithNoSB]

I think I'll invest my $500 in real estate.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_go_pr_wh/economy_stimulus

[Jiddy78]

I think I'll invest my $500 in real estate.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_go_pr_wh/economy_stimulus


Isn't it nice when a "conservative" president is handing out "economic stimulus?"

Who are the socialists again? Why do they have the money in the first place if it is needed by the people? Something is afoot?

Whatever...What's happening on Idol next tuesday?

[BoredWithNoSB]

My pissedoffedness at this plan increased significantly today as I read that I may not even get mine with this plan.

Stupid ass cap of people earining $75,000 individual ort $150,000 married.

Why do married people get twice the income cap? It cost less than twice as much to live married. Stupid ass government.

I can't belive they are going to borrow money to give it away. I'm going to go to my congressman's coffee hour and kick his ass next week for this.

[Jiddy78]

My pissedoffedness at this plan increased significantly today as I read that I may not even get mine with this plan.

Stupid ass cap of people earining $75,000 individual ort $150,000 married.

Why do married people get twice the income cap? It cost less than twice as much to live married. Stupid ass government.

I can't belive they are going to borrow money to give it away. I'm going to go to my congressman's coffee hour and kick his ass next week for this.


Do you have a link? Has congress passed it yet? I'm surprised if so.

Looks like wifey and I will be getting it.

[BoredWithNoSB]

Still tentative:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_go_co/economy_stimulus

Looks like you & wife may get up to $1200.

I get nothing.

Bullshit system we have.

[Vegas]

Still tentative:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_go_co/economy_stimulus

Looks like you & wife may get up to $1200.

I get nothing.

Bullshit system we have.

So I don't get how giving people back part of the money they pay in taxes is a liberal idea. And I don't get why everyone is entitled to be getting money. If someone didn't pay, why should they get a refund?

[LSU]

Still tentative:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_go_co/economy_stimulus

Looks like you & wife may get up to $1200.

I get nothing.

Bullshit system we have.


Sweet. That's a couple playstation 3s for me...one in the living room and one in the bedroom.

[Jiddy78]

So I don't get how giving people back part of the money they pay in taxes is a liberal idea. And I don't get why everyone is entitled to be getting money. If someone didn't pay, why should they get a refund?

It's all a fascade...Ain't gonna help sh*t...Although, if I get $1200, I may drop it on the fancy blinds my wife has wanted for a while...

[Jiddy78]

Sweet. That's a couple playstation 3s for me...one in the living room and one in the bedroom.

I won't buy one til 300 or under...I've determined my price point.

[Vegas]

It's all a fascade...Ain't gonna help sh*t...Although, if I get $1200, I may drop it on the fancy blinds my wife has wanted for a while...

You should use that money to short a REIT.

[LSU]

I won't buy one til 300 or under...I've determined my price point.


I won't buy one. That's it. No 'til.

[BoredWithNoSB]

So I don't get how giving people back part of the money they pay in taxes is a liberal idea. And I don't get why everyone is entitled to be getting money. If someone didn't pay, why should they get a refund?

We're not getting our taxes back, we're getting borrowed money from Bond sales back.

This is part of the reason our country is hosed. Borrow to spend. Now we're borrowing to give people money to spend and I'm not even going to get any.

[V]

My pissedoffedness at this plan increased significantly today as I read that I may not even get mine with this plan.

Stupid ass cap of people earining $75,000 individual ort $150,000 married.

Why do married people get twice the income cap? It cost less than twice as much to live married. Stupid ass government.

I can't belive they are going to borrow money to give it away. I'm going to go to my congressman's coffee hour and kick his ass next week for this.

Single people always get fucked by the government. The tax system has been set-up for the benefit of the rich and the married

[Jiddy78]

I won't buy one. That's it. No 'til.

I jones for online Madden...I've been neglected for about 2 years now...I miss kicking 13 year old video game ass.

[Vegas]

We're not getting our taxes back, we're getting borrowed money from Bond sales back.

This is part of the reason our country is hosed. Borrow to spend. Now we're borrowing to give people money to spend and I'm not even going to get any.

The problem isn't lack of revenues. The problem is out-of-control spending.

But again, nobody who doesn't pay in should be getting a refund.

[LSU]

Single people always get fucked by the government. The tax system has been set-up for the benefit of the rich and the married



Vegas said yesterday married people get fucked by the marriage penalty.

Something is not right here...because gays are better off not being able to be married...or so that's what I understood.

[Jiddy78]

Single people always get fucked by the government. The tax system has been set-up for the benefit of the rich and the married

The marriage penalty was ousted a few years back. DINK's don't really get much more than Singles...

[Jiddy78]

Vegas said yesterday married people get fucked by the marriage penalty.

Something is not right here...because gays are better off not being able to be married...or so that's what I understood.

Vegas is outdated.

[V]

Vegas said yesterday married people get fucked by the marriage penalty.

Something is not right here...because gays are better off not being able to be married...or so that's what I understood.

I do not see married people carrying more of a tax burden than single people, especially if they have kids.

[BoredWithNoSB]

The problem isn't lack of revenues. The problem is out-of-control spending.

But again, nobody who doesn't pay in should be getting a refund.


I agree, but a company that is losing money should look to cut its dividends, not borrow to pay more.

Also, I agree that giving a 'tax refund' to those who didn't pay taxes is BS.

[LSU]

I do not see married people carrying more of a tax burden than single people, especially if they have kids.



I don't know what to think anymore.

Yesterday, marriage was a penalty, today, it's an asset.

[Jiddy78]

I do not see married people carrying more of a tax burden than single people, especially if they have kids.

Approximately $1500 for my rugrat for the next 15 years, assuming my tax rate and consistency in the law...Big deal.

[BoredWithNoSB]

DINK's don't really get much more than Singles...

Agreed. So, now I get double penalized for not being able to get laid.

[Vegas]

I don't know what to think anymore.

Yesterday, marriage was a penalty, today, it's an asset.

It's both and it's neither. It's as simple as the tax laws.

[Jiddy78]

Agreed. So, now I get double penalized for not being able to get laid.

You'll make it up in house appreciation in no time. Fear not.

[BoredWithNoSB]

You'll make it up in house appreciation in no time. Fear not.

Yeah, I'm only 25% under right now on my loan.

Should just put a note on my door to the bank to tell them I would have made my payment if the government would have subsidized it for me and walk out. Damn government giving handouts to everybody.

My bitterness quotient has risen about 30% today.

[LSU]

Yeah, I'm only 25% under right now on my loan.

Should just put a note on my door to the bank to tell them I would have made my payment if the government would have subsidized it for me and walk out. Damn government giving handouts to everybody.

My bitterness quotient has risen about 30% today.



At least you don't have to deal with the marriage penalty.

[Jiddy78]

Yeah, I'm only 25% under right now on my loan.

Should just put a note on my door to the bank to tell them I would have made my payment if the government would have subsidized it for me and walk out. Damn government giving handouts to everybody.

My bitterness quotient has risen about 30% today.

I'm down a sh*tload according to Zillow at this point, and as of Jan. 1 (I printed the page on that date)...Lower than my tax appraisal from last year (The appraisal date is Jan. 1, hence the printing). Happiest news I've received all year...See you f*ckers in September if I don't see a reduction.

[V]

Approximately $1500 for my rugrat for the next 15 years, assuming my tax rate and consistency in the law...Big deal.

Sorry Mr. Big Bucks, I feed and care for my cat, I wish I could claim $1500 cause that would be a big deal for me.

[V]

Agreed. So, now I get double penalized for not being able to get laid.

Its not that you are being penalized for not being able to get laid. You are being penalized for not having somebody agree to lay you legally and consistently...or at least legally.

[BoredWithNoSB]

Sorry Mr. Big Bucks, I feed and care for my cat, I wish I could claim $1500 cause that would be a big deal for me.

I should get at least $3000 for my dog. Probably weighs 5 times what Jiddy Jr. weighs, and for at least the next couple of week, probably has an even broader vocabulary.

[Jiddy78]

Sorry Mr. Big Bucks, I feed and care for my cat, I wish I could claim $1500 cause that would be a big deal for me.

You do claim $500 of it for yourself in the form of an exemption...No child...No exemtion...The only throwback was the addition of the Child Tax Credit...A grand....A grand is peanuts compared to what you will shell out for the kid. But if the credit was taken away, I would agree that is fair.

As for the cat, I'm sure a Chinese restaurant would be more than happy to take it off your hands.

[LSU]

You do claim $500 of it for yourself in the form of an exemption...No child...No exemtion...The only throwback was the addition of the Child Tax Credit...A grand....A grand is peanuts compared to what you will shell out for the kid. But if the credit was taken away, I would agree that is fair.

As for the cat, I'm sure a Chinese restaurant would be more than happy to take it off your hands.



Shit, I was in the hole a grand a month before the kid was even yanked from my wife's midsection.

[V]

I should get at least $3000 for my dog. Probably weighs 5 times what Jiddy Jr. weighs, and for at least the next couple of week, probably has an even broader vocabulary.

Seriously, I think there should be a credit for adopting pets, especially if you adopt them for a city shelter. Obviously not as much as a child, but something at least. Pet owners are responsible for the quality of a life.

[Jiddy78]

Seriously, I think there should be a credit for adopting pets, especially if you adopt them for a city shelter. Obviously not as much as a child, but something at least. Pet owners are responsible for the quality of a life.

Ummmm...No.

[V]

Ummmm...No.

figures

[Jiddy78]

figures


I love my cat...but I don't intend for the government to subsidize it....and I double don't intend for the government to subsidize it THEN promote renters to sneak them into government subsidized property, thus destroying the property on top....

That's like a double no no.

So figure away.

[BoredWithNoSB]

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080124/economy_stimulus.html

Alright. So, sounds liek I'll geta couple dollars at least.

Anyway, my question is: What tax year will they use to compute the income on? Also, will it be on total income or earned income?

[V]

I love my cat...but I don't intend for the government to subsidize it....and I double don't intend for the government to subsidize it THEN promote renters to sneak them into government subsidized property, thus destroying the property on top....

That's like a double no no.

So figure away.

Maybe not the federal government, ok. But at least State, at the very least for adopting a pet from a publically-funded shelter. And I am not talking about a lot of money. I paid $80 to adopt my kitten. I should at least get that back.

[LSU]

Maybe not the federal government, ok. But at least State, at the very least for adopting a pet from a publically-funded shelter. And I am not talking about a lot of money. I paid $80 to adopt my kitten. I should at least get that back.



No you shouldn't.

I pay money to keep my grass nice and green, so the neighborhood and the city look good. I should get that cost reimbursed by the government.

[V]

No you shouldn't.

I pay money to keep my grass nice and green, so the neighborhood and the city look good. I should get that cost reimbursed by the government.

You get tax-credits for owning a home don't you?

[LSU]

You get tax-credits for owning a home don't you?



I own a home? Where, I'd like to live in it.

[V]

I own a home? Where, I'd like to live in it.

Based on your comment I thought you owned your home. Nice of you to keep the owner's grass green though. That's kind of you, though IMO, not your responsiblity especially if you are a renter.

[Jiddy78]

Maybe not the federal government, ok. But at least State, at the very least for adopting a pet from a publically-funded shelter. And I am not talking about a lot of money. I paid $80 to adopt my kitten. I should at least get that back.

There are plenty of shelters you can adopt for free. Our cat was free. No $80 soup for you.

[Jiddy78]

Based on your comment I thought you owned your home. Nice of you to keep the owner's grass green though. That's kind of you, though IMO, not your responsiblity especially if you are a renter.

ASSuming what is part of the rental agreement is quite...presumptious, don't you think?

[V]

ASSuming what is part of the rental agreement is quite...presumptious, don't you think?

Well, if you are suckered into taking care of a lawn that you do not own and doing the handy work to maintain and/or increase somebody else's home value is very generous of a renter, and quite the deal for the landlord.

[Jiddy78]

You get tax-credits for owning a home don't you?

No...There is no tax credit for owning a home.

[LSU]

Based on your comment I thought you owned your home. Nice of you to keep the owner's grass green though. That's kind of you, though IMO, not your responsiblity especially if you are a renter.



If it was in the lease that lawn care is my responsibility, I would think it is my responsibility.

[Jiddy78]

Well, if you are suckered into taking care of a lawn that you do not own and doing the handy work to maintain and/or increase somebody else's home value is very generous of a renter, and quite the deal for the landlord.

Or you are a responsible adult and take care of that which you use regardless of whether or not it benefits only you....Perhaps that landlord will return the favor...

[V]

Or you are a responsible adult and take care of that which you use regardless of whether or not it benefits only you....Perhaps that landlord will return the favor...

IF he is a good landlord. I think one of the benefits of renting (which I have heard plenty of others who agree with me) is that you do not have to take care of mowing a lawn. I personally wouldn't do it, and I know plenty of landlords who mow their tenents lawn and take care of the lawn because ultimately it is the landlord's responsiblity because the landlord OWNS the property NOT the renter. IT is NOT the renter's responsibilty!

[LSU]

Well, if you are suckered into taking care of a lawn that you do not own and doing the handy work to maintain and/or increase somebody else's home value is very generous of a renter, and quite the deal for the landlord.




Don't worry, I'm pissing on walls and shitting on the carpets to keep the value in check.

[MTVike]

No...There is no tax credit for owning a home.


But the interest on the mortgage is deductable.

[V]

Don't worry, I'm pissing on walls and shitting on the carpets to keep the value in check.

Good! LOL

[V]

But the interest on the mortgage is deductable.

Well, that is what I meant. I am not well-versed on homeowner tax benefits as I sadly do not own my own home...yet.

[LSU]

Or you are a responsible adult and take care of that which you use regardless of whether or not it benefits only you....Perhaps that landlord will return the favor...



Like not increasing rent for 3 years, including the span immediately following Katrina when housing costs soared. The apt I lived in prior to this place went from $740 a month to just shy of a grand.

[LSU]

IF he is a good landlord. I think one of the benefits of renting (which I have heard plenty of others who agree with me) is that you do not have to take care of mowning a lawn. I personally wouldn't do it, and I know plenty of landlords who mow their tenents lawn and take care of the lawn because ultimately it is the landlord's responsiblity because the landlord OWNS the property NOT the renter. IT is NOT the renter's responsibilty!


In other words, if I choose to sign a lease with someone and I sign off on taking care of the lawn, I shouldn't bitch about the cost and effort put into it, or ask for the gov't to grease my palm for doing so.

Duly noted.

[V]

Like not increasing rent for 3 years, including the span immediately following Katrina when housing costs soared. The apt I lived in prior to this place went from $740 a month to just shy of a grand.

Then it sounds like you are great renter and have a landlord who appreciates that and is good to you. I have a similar relationship, but not everybody is as lucky. The point I am making is, if you chose to do it, more power to you, but you shouldn't HAVE to, and the OWNER should know that.

[LSU]

Then it sounds like you are great renter and have a landlord who appreciates that and is good to you. I have a similar relationship, but not everybody is as lucky. The point I am making is, if you chose to do it, more power to you, but you shouldn't HAVE to, and the OWNER should know that.



If the owner puts it in the lease, you HAVE to, and if you don't agree to those terms, he doesn't HAVE to rent you the place.

[V]

In other words, if I choose to sign a lease with someone and I sign off on taking care of the lawn, I shouldn't bitch about the cost and effort put into it, or ask for the gov't to grease my palm for doing so.

Duly noted.

True, but if you did own the home, like MTVike said, you do get a benefit. Now, if I were a landlord and you said that you were going to take my responsibilty of lawn care off my hands, then I would give you either reduced rent, or agree to not raise the rent for a number of years.

So, what happens if you miss mowing the lawn or don't have the money to take care of it, or simply do not want to for a period of time?

[LSU]

True, but if you did own the home, like MTVike said, you do get a benefit. Now, if I were a landlord and you said that you were going to take my responsibilty of lawn care off my hands, then I would give you either reduced rent, or agree to not raise the rent for a number of years.

So, what happens if you miss mowing the lawn or don't have the money to take care of it, or simply do not want to for a period of time?



Miss mowing the lawn? Uh...wait until the next available time slot.

Don't have the money? Tough titties. If you don't have the money to buy a lawn mower, perhaps you shouldn't agree to the terms of the lease that require you to maintain the lawn...otherwise it's about a quarter gallon of gas.

Don't want to mow for a period of time? Pay someone else to do it.

[Jiddy78]

IF he is a good landlord. I think one of the benefits of renting (which I have heard plenty of others who agree with me) is that you do not have to take care of mowing a lawn. I personally wouldn't do it, and I know plenty of landlords who mow their tenents lawn and take care of the lawn because ultimately it is the landlord's responsiblity because the landlord OWNS the property NOT the renter. IT is NOT the renter's responsibilty!


That is not true...That is specifically determined in the rental agreement.

[Jiddy78]

But the interest on the mortgage is deductable.


Partially.

[Jiddy78]

Well, that is what I meant. I am not well-versed on homeowner tax benefits as I sadly do not own my own home...yet.


You never will. You are priced out forever. Sorry.

[V]

There are plenty of shelters you can adopt for free. Our cat was free. No $80 soup for you.

Well, truth be told, it does cover teh cost of her shots and spay (which by the way almost killed her because seh was too young and got a nasty infection). SO there was a fee, and I did ask if it was deductible. OH, AND I have to pay taxes on her every year!

[Jiddy78]

Then it sounds like you are great renter and have a landlord who appreciates that and is good to you. I have a similar relationship, but not everybody is as lucky. The point I am making is, if you chose to do it, more power to you, but you shouldn't HAVE to, and the OWNER should know that.


...when you put it into writing.

[Jiddy78]

True, but if you did own the home, like MTVike said, you do get a benefit. Now, if I were a landlord and you said that you were going to take my responsibilty of lawn care off my hands, then I would give you either reduced rent, or agree to not raise the rent for a number of years.

So, what happens if you miss mowing the lawn or don't have the money to take care of it, or simply do not want to for a period of time?


I own a home. I get ZERO tax benefit. Nada.

[V]

You never will. You are priced out forever. Sorry.

Shut cho mouf!

[V]

I own a home. I get ZERO tax benefit. Nada.

HOw is that possible?

[Jiddy78]

Well, truth be told, it does cover teh cost of her shots and spay (which by the way almost killed her because seh was too young and got a nasty infection). SO there was a fee, and I did ask if it was deductible. OH, AND I have to pay taxes on her every year!

So you received a service for you money...Not an adoption.

[MTVike]

Partially.


You need a good acountant?

:cool:

[LSU]

HOw is that possible?



You get credit for mortgage interest paid. What happens when there's no more mortgage interest? No more credit.

[V]

...when you put it into writing.

NO renter should be required to clean gutters and fucking maintain a home value (other than not wreck the place obviously) However, if you choose to do that, then more power to you, but unless you are getting something substantial from it, no it's not cost-effective for the renter.

[V]

You get credit for mortgage interest paid. What happens when there's no more mortgage interest? No more credit.

Oh, does Jiddy not have a mortgage anymore? ANd if not, how did he manage to get a mortgage with no interest?

[Jiddy78]

HOw is that possible?

Our standard deduction of $10,700 married is larger than all of our taxes, interest and donations (etc on itemized schedule) combined.

Anything over and above is deductible. Assuming interest alone, at current rates, you would need about a 200,000 loan to START deducting.

[V]

So you received a service for you money...Not an adoption.

Yeah, I am not so much bitching about it, really. Other than they forced me to spay her at 8weeks, and I didn't want to. And that they made me go to some fuck-job vet who has a deal with the shelter that botched her spay. But I am bitching about the fact I have to pay taxes on her, adn I don't get anything back.

[LSU]

NO renter should be required to clean gutters and fucking maintain a home value (other than not wreck the place obviously) However, if you choose to do that, then more power to you, but unless you are getting something substantial from it, no it's not cost-effective for the renter.


Welcome to Earth, please enjoy your stay.

[Jiddy78]

You need a good acountant?

:cool:

Touche...if we're talking rentals, it is fully deductible, assuming you aren't a moneybags and trying to write off a loss position...but for primary residence...

[Jiddy78]

You get credit for mortgage interest paid. What happens when there's no more mortgage interest? No more credit.

You don't get a credit, fructose.

[LSU]

Yeah, I am not so much bitching about it, really. Other than they forced me to spay her at 8weeks, and I didn't want to. And that they made me go to some fuck-job vet who has a deal with the shelter that botched her spay. But I am bitching about the fact I have to pay taxes on her, adn I don't get anything back.


Oh wah.

[LSU]

You don't get a credit, fructose.


Whatever, HFCS.

[V]

[QUOTE=LSU;29431]Welcome to Earth, please enjoy your stay.[/QUOTE

WOW, you are SO smart and clever and witty! You really showed me.

[V]

Miss mowing the lawn? Uh...wait until the next available time slot.

Don't have the money? Tough titties. If you don't have the money to buy a lawn mower, perhaps you shouldn't agree to the terms of the lease that require you to maintain the lawn...otherwise it's about a quarter gallon of gas.

Don't want to mow for a period of time? Pay someone else to do it.

Then, enjoy taking care of someone elses property. I am glad it works out for you

[Jiddy78]

NO renter should be required to clean gutters and fucking maintain a home value (other than not wreck the place obviously) However, if you choose to do that, then more power to you, but unless you are getting something substantial from it, no it's not cost-effective for the renter.

Cutting grass is normal routine maintenance, normally addressed in 99.9999% of rental agreements, and yes, is many times the responsibility of the renter...Is this confusing you?

This is one of those things that is PREDETERMINED before one rents...Who the f*ck do you rent from? Chico Cash Collecta?

[LSU]

WOW, you are SO smart and clever and witty! You really showed me.


Oh believe me...YOU are the one putting on a display here.

[LSU]

Then, enjoy taking care of someone elses property. I am glad it works out for you



I do enjoy it. And it works out just fine.

And I don't even have to complain about not getting a tax break because of my monthly rent or cost of a mower.

[LSU]

Cutting grass is normal routine maintenance, normally addressed in 99.9999% of rental agreements, and yes, is many times the responsibility of the renter...Is this confusing you?

This is one of those things that is PREDETERMINED before one rents...Who the f*ck do you rent from? Chico Cash Collecta?


For home rentals...for any apartment I've rented, it's been the landlord/management duty to do so...

[V]

That is not true...That is specifically determined in the rental agreement.

I do not think it is a wise decision to sign a rental agreement that requires you to put your labor and time into somebody elses property UNLESS the renter is getting a good deal and/or benefit. Otherwise you are laboring for somebody else's property. IF LSU is fine with it. GREAT!

[LSU]

I do not think it is a wise decision to sign a rental agreement that requires you to put your labor and time into somebody elses property UNLESS the renter is getting a good deal and/or benefit. Otherwise you are laboring for somebody else's property. IF LSU is fine with it. GREAT!

With that logic, I guess I should stop cleaning the toilets and vacuuming...that is, unless I'm getting a good deal out of it.

[V]

For home rentals...for any apartment I've rented, it's been the landlord/management duty to do so...

EVEN for home rentals, I know there are landlords who mow the lawn for the renters. If their fucking stove breaks and the landlord owns the stove and the renter did not break the stove, is it the fucking renters responsibilty to pay for another fucking stove or to fix the stove??? I happen to have an awesome landlord!

[Jiddy78]

I do not think it is a wise decision to sign a rental agreement that requires you to put your labor and time into somebody elses property UNLESS the renter is getting a good deal and/or benefit. Otherwise you are laboring for somebody else's property. IF LSU is fine with it. GREAT!

I don't think it's a good idea to pay 4 digit amounts or more for rent...So guess what? I negotiate....

[V]

With that logic, I guess I should stop cleaning the toilets and vacuuming...that is, unless I'm getting a good deal out of it.

No, it is actually in every standard lease agreement that you must keep the property clean, and that is understandable.

[V]

I don't think it's a good idea to pay 4 digit amounts or more for rent...So guess what? I negotiate....

Okay then...now you get the idea, you are getting a benefit. That has been my point!

[BoredWithNoSB]

If I married my dog would I get the marriage bonus since his AGI is zero?

Can I marry a dog , even if it is male, or does it have to be a female dog not to be deviant?

[V]

I do enjoy it. And it works out just fine.

And I don't even have to complain about not getting a tax break because of my monthly rent or cost of a mower.

Right because you get a benefit.

[LSU]

EVEN for home rentals, I know there are landlords who mow the lawn for the renters. If their fucking stove breaks and the landlord owns the stove and the renter did not break the stove, is it the fucking renters responsibilty to pay for another fucking stove or to fix the stove??? I happen to have an awesome landlord!

Do you think the landlord figures in the cost of him coming out and mowing your yard (time, gas, mower) into your rental costs? Or do you think he's just a great guy and the rent would be the same whether or not he mowed the lawn for you?

As for the stove, that was in the lease. He's replaced the dishwasher and the A/C unit since I've been here. A door, too. And a few plumbing issues.

He said upfront that the fridge was our responsibility though, and we've had to replace the one that was here...

[LSU]

No, it is actually in every standard lease agreement that you must keep the property clean, and that is understandable.



Uh...the lawn is the property, is it not?

[LSU]

Right because you get a benefit.



What is my benefit?

[V]

Cutting grass is normal routine maintenance, normally addressed in 99.9999% of rental agreements, and yes, is many times the responsibility of the renter...Is this confusing you?

This is one of those things that is PREDETERMINED before one rents...Who the f*ck do you rent from? Chico Cash Collecta?

Cutting grass is NOT considered normal routine maintenance.

"This is one of those things that is PREDETERMINED before one rents"

Whoever signs an agreement like that without getting a benefit in return is being taken advantage of.

[LSU]

Okay then...now you get the idea, you are getting a benefit. That has been my point!


You don't benefit from adopting/owning your cat?

[V]

What is my benefit?

Didn't you say that your landlord has not raised your rent?

[V]

Oh believe me...YOU are the one putting on a display here.


Really, how so?

[LSU]

Didn't you say that your landlord has not raised your rent?


Yes.

Would he have raised it if at the end of the lease, I said, "I'm not mowing the lawn anymore."

My guess is he either says, "Piss off," or says "Then pay another $50 for rent."

Guess where that $50 would go? To have Luvda come over once every two weeks.

[V]

Do you think the landlord figures in the cost of him coming out and mowing your yard (time, gas, mower) into your rental costs? Or do you think he's just a great guy and the rent would be the same whether or not he mowed the lawn for you?

As for the stove, that was in the lease. He's replaced the dishwasher and the A/C unit since I've been here. A door, too. And a few plumbing issues.

He said upfront that the fridge was our responsibility though, and we've had to replace the one that was here...

You agreed to have the fridge be your responsibilty and you had to replace it? Okay, I cannot continue this discussion because I feel my responses will only offend you.

[LSU]

Really, how so?


If I tell you, you might stop, and then I'll be bored the rest of the afternoon.

[Jiddy78]

Cutting grass is NOT considered normal routine maintenance.

"This is one of those things that is PREDETERMINED before one rents"

Whoever signs an agreement like that without getting a benefit in return is being taken advantage of.

What happens if you skip cutting it once? What has been lost? If something can be gained...Something must be lost. And who feels the blow of the loss in this situation?

[LSU]

You agreed to have the fridge be your responsibilty and you had to replace it? Okay, I cannot continue this discussion because I feel my responses will only offend you.


Yes. I own that fridge. Meaning, when I leave, it leaves with me. What part of that is going to make you spew things to offend me?

[V]

If I tell you, you might stop, and then I'll be bored the rest of the afternoon.

LOL, fuck off :D

[Jiddy78]

You agreed to have the fridge be your responsibilty and you had to replace it? Okay, I cannot continue this discussion because I feel my responses will only offend you.

LMAO....Priced out forever renter is finding fault with others' financial decisions...

[Jiddy78]

Yes. I own that fridge. Meaning, when I leave, it leaves with me. What part of that is going to make you spew things to offend me?

Oh no...You've been had. Accept it.

[LSU]

LOL, fuck off :D



Yeah.

LOL indeed.

[V]

Yes. I own that fridge. Meaning, when I leave, it leaves with me. What part of that is going to make you spew things to offend me?

Well you can take it with you, so I guess that is cool. However, it wasn't wise to agree to that because now you have a refridgerator without a house. It's not a like a washer and dryer. What happens if you for some reason happen to move and your new rental place already has a fridge? Come on.

[V]

LMAO....Priced out forever renter is finding fault with others' financial decisions...

You are calling me a forever renter? Really? Okay.

[LSU]

Oh no...You've been had. Accept it.


I guess so.

Was I also "had" that when we moved in, there were W/D connections, but no W/D, so I went out and purchased a W/D for the home?

Fuck, I wish I could've had this conversation before being completely duped by the system.


To think, I could've paid upwards of $1200 for the same house, but had a fridge and lawn care thrown in. Stupid me!

[Nixon's Head]

So does a single fellow such as myself benefit from this deal or will I not get anything at all?

[Jiddy78]

Well you can take it with you, so I guess that is cool. However, it wasn't wise to agree to that because now you have a refridgerator without a house. It's not a like a washer and dryer. What happens if you for some reason happen to move and your new rental place already has a fridge? Come on.


I appreciate the very "micro" look at things...as I tend to only focus on domestic affairs when it comest to economics...but damn, you take it to a whole new level.

[V]

Yeah.

LOL indeed.

If you are going to personally offensive then we can stop having a discussion.

[LSU]

Well you can take it with you, so I guess that is cool. However, it wasn't wise to agree to that because now you have a refridgerator without a house. It's not a like a washer and dryer. What happens if you for some reason happen to move and your new rental place already has a fridge? Come on.


Come on? Do you think before you ask these rhetorical questions? Know anyone that has 2 refrigerators?

Maybe I might have the bright idea to search for a house that...wait for it...doesn't have a refrigerator so that I don't have to get rid of mine.

And...here's another idea...it's amazing they come so fast...SELL the refrigerator.


Or shit. Maybe I'll buy a house and not rent the next time.



Other than that, yeah, I'm fucked royally.

[V]

I guess so.

Was I also "had" that when we moved in, there were W/D connections, but no W/D, so I went out and purchased a W/D for the home?

Fuck, I wish I could've had this conversation before being completely duped by the system.


To think, I could've paid upwards of $1200 for the same house, but had a fridge and lawn care thrown in. Stupid me!

It IS economical to own your own washer and dryer as most places only have connections. However, your landlord told you that the refridgerator HE OWNED and probably knew needed to replaced was YOUR responsibilty. He might as well told you to grab your ankles. But I am being called the priced out forever renter. Rich. I am done with this discussion.

[Jiddy78]

If you are going to personally offensive then we can stop having a discussion.


I see someone who has implied comments to be made that could be construed as personally offensive in this very thread...but that person did it in such a way by stating they will NOT say them...so as to get their personally offensive jab in without actually doing it....But hey...I agree with you. I wish they did too.

[LSU]

If you are going to personally offensive then we can stop having a discussion.



Personally offensive, have I done anything you haven't?

[V]

Come on? Do you think before you ask these rhetorical questions? Know anyone that has 2 refrigerators?

Maybe I might have the bright idea to search for a house that...wait for it...doesn't have a refrigerator so that I don't have to get rid of mine.

And...here's another idea...it's amazing they come so fast...SELL the refrigerator.


Or shit. Maybe I'll buy a house and not rent the next time.



Other than that, yeah, I'm fucked royally.


yes, sell the refridgerator so that you don't get the same price you paid for it. Whatever, grab your ankles!

[Jiddy78]

It IS economical to own your own washer and dryer as most places only have connections. However, your landlord told you that the refridgerator HE OWNED and probably knew needed to replaced was YOUR responsibilty. He might as well told you to grab your ankles. But I am being called the priced out forever renter. Rich. I am done with this discussion.

You missed it in 2004 and earlier...Now housing will forever go up and your wage will be destroyed by inflation. It's just the way it is. No need to get huffy about it. You just won't own a home. It's good you hold strong stances in regards to what a renter should/shouldn't do...You'll need that bargaining power.

[LSU]

It IS economical to own your own washer and dryer as most places only have connections. However, your landlord told you that the refridgerator HE OWNED and probably knew needed to replaced was YOUR responsibilty. He might as well told you to grab your ankles. But I am being called the priced out forever renter. Rich. I am done with this discussion.



Wow, talk about putting the cart before the horse. You might benefit yourself by asking questions about a situation before just diving right in.


I never said the fridge was the landlord's. A previous renter left it here. He said he typically doesn't keep fridges in the houses he rents and this one was just there. We could choose to use it or toss it and buy our own. Either way, he wasn't responsible for the fridge...the garbage disposal, oven, DW, A/C and nearly everything in the house, yes. But not the fridge. Fuck, for all he knew, the fridge was in tip top shape and we could've taken it with us when we left (without paying for it) because he didn't want it.

But other than that, the scenario you've made up in your head is dead on.

[MTVike]

If you are going to personally offensive then we can stop having a discussion.


Call him a Dick, that's what I always do.

He then feels less guilty and you can carry on.

[LSU]

yes, sell the refridgerator so that you don't get the same price you paid for it. Whatever, grab your ankles!


No comment for the other ideas?

Don't worry, I probably wouldn't sell it...put it in the garage for extra storage and canned beverages.

[LSU]

Call him a Dick, that's what I always do.

He then feels less guilty and you can carry on.


True.

But I usually give you a flyer because, for the most part, you talk sense.

[V]

LMAO....Priced out forever renter is finding fault with others' financial decisions...

I am and have always been a smart renter and smart with money when I have it. I have fallen into financial difficulty lately but it is not because I am not financially responsible. I also have a killer deal for my rental, and it actually makes it beneficial for me to rent and saves me money. Unfortunately at the moment, I am having a hard time paying rent, but I am far from getting fucked on my rental agreement. If I told you my situation you would be impressed with my deal. It is just sad that I am having a hard time financially, but I will tell you this, I am not a fucking priced out, forever renter. And I wouldn't fucking mow somebody elses lawn without it benefiting me.

[Jiddy78]

I am and have always been a smart renter and smart with money when I have it. I have fallen into financial difficulty lately but it is not because I am not financially responsible. I also have a killer deal for my rental, and it actually makes it beneficial for me to rent and saves me money. Unfortunately at the moment, I am having a hard time paying rent, but I am far from getting fucked on my rental agreement. If I told you my situation you would be impressed with my deal. It is just sad that I am having a hard time financially, but I will tell you this, I am not a fucking priced out, forever renter. And I wouldn't fucking mow somebody elses lawn without it benefiting me.

I'm printing this for my fridge. This is up there in my top ten posting moments.

[V]

I'm printing this for my fridge. This is up there in my top ten posting moments.

You should.

[LSU]

I'm printing this for my fridge. This is up there in my top ten posting moments.


Do you own or rent your fridge?

[V]

Do you own or rent your fridge?

Well he owns his home, so what do you think?

[Jiddy78]

You should.

I would send LSU a copy...but being his trouble with his fridge and all....I just don't think that would be tactful.

[Jiddy78]

Do you own or rent your fridge?

Damn...You beat me to it.

[LSU]

Well he owns his home, so what do you think?



What do I think?

I think there are places called "Rent to Own" to buy appliances from.


What else do I think?


Jiddy will appreciate the comment much more than someone slightly bitter at the moment.

[Jiddy78]

Well he owns his home, so what do you think?

So seriously, how does it feel to throw money away every month on rent? You get nothing for that money...while homeowners receive value increases of anywhere between 1-2% each month that goes by...That's gotta be hard.

[V]

You missed it in 2004 and earlier...Now housing will forever go up and your wage will be destroyed by inflation. It's just the way it is. No need to get huffy about it. You just won't own a home. It's good you hold strong stances in regards to what a renter should/shouldn't do...You'll need that bargaining power.

I will own a home, but I will tell you that I did miss it in 2004. I was renting in New City where I lived between Central Park West and Broadway for 1k a month.

[LSU]

I would send LSU a copy...but being his trouble with his fridge and all....I just don't think that would be tactful.



I'd have to leave it here whenever I eventually move, since the fridge is mine.

Can I let go of my ankles now?

[LSU]

I will own a home, but I will tell you that I did miss it in 2004. I was renting in New City where I lived between Central Park West and Broadway for 1k a month.


And I'm the one that makes bad rental agreements?!

http://www.haxed.co.uk/gallery/albums/ownage/lmao-real.jpg

[V]

So seriously, how does it feel to throw money away every month on rent? You get nothing for that money...while homeowners receive value increases of anywhere between 1-2% each month that goes by...That's gotta be hard.

Very true. I do not have an investment. Yes, that is sad. However, I am not exactly getting fucked on rent either. I have a 1500 sq. apt with all my utilities included in the rent...including premium cable, and my landlord blow the leaves off my porch for me.

[V]

And I'm the one that makes bad rental agreements?!

http://www.haxed.co.uk/gallery/albums/ownage/lmao-real.jpg

Its NEW YORK CITY. THE BEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN NEW YORK CITY. ACROSS FROM THE LINCOLN CENTER. WITH MY UTILITIES INCLUDED. I GOT A FUCKING DEAL.

[Jiddy78]

I will own a home, but I will tell you that I did miss it in 2004. I was renting in New City where I lived between Central Park West and Broadway for 1k a month.

Silly renter...Deals are for OWNERS. Unless we're talking landscaping...then it's always renters.

[LSU]

Very true. I do not have an investment. Yes, that is sad. However, I am not exactly getting fucked on rent either. I have a 1500 sq. apt with all my utilities included in the rent...including premium cable, and my landlord blow the leaves off my porch for me.



I'll be he does, Panama Red.

[V]

Wow, talk about putting the cart before the horse. You might benefit yourself by asking questions about a situation before just diving right in.


I never said the fridge was the landlord's. A previous renter left it here. He said he typically doesn't keep fridges in the houses he rents and this one was just there. We could choose to use it or toss it and buy our own. Either way, he wasn't responsible for the fridge...the garbage disposal, oven, DW, A/C and nearly everything in the house, yes. But not the fridge. Fuck, for all he knew, the fridge was in tip top shape and we could've taken it with us when we left (without paying for it) because he didn't want it.

But other than that, the scenario you've made up in your head is dead on.

I only went by what you wrote. You said that he said you were responsible for the fridge.

[LSU]

I only went by what you wrote. You said that he said you were responsible for the fridge.



No, you went by what I wrote, and then made up a bunch of stuff in your head, and then responded.


Be honest now.

[V]

What do I think?

I think there are places called "Rent to Own" to buy appliances from.




Okay......that's a great place to go. You are a wise consumer, my bad.

[LSU]

Okay......that's a great place to go



I disagree. I think they're horrible places to go.

[Jiddy78]

Very true. I do not have an investment. Yes, that is sad. However, I am not exactly getting fucked on rent either. I have a 1500 sq. apt with all my utilities included in the rent...including premium cable, and my landlord blow the leaves off my porch for me.

Do you ever go on to realtor.com and watch your dream home's price increase out of your grasp as the months go by? It must be depressing to see.

[V]

No, you went by what I wrote, and then made up a bunch of stuff in your head, and then responded.


Be honest now.

No after your last comment, I think I got you pegged. Hit me up next time you rent, and I will help you out!

[LSU]

No after your last comment, I think I got you pegged. Hit me up next time you rent, and I will help you out!



I bet you do have me pegged. Exactly.

[LSU]

I better go check my lease...since living here, I bought a new TV...I need to make sure I don't have to leave it here when I move out.

[BoredWithNoSB]

I've got to say that it does seem odd that your rental agreement includes basically nothing. You have all the cost of home ownership, without any of the benefits.

Obviously, due to your transient nature over the next couple of years it makes sense for you, but if a landlord would show me the lease you have I'd laugh and walk out.

[V]

I'll be he does, Panama Red.

It wasn't funny the first time you posted it

[V]

I've got to say that it does seem odd that your rental agreement includes basically nothing. You have all the cost of home ownership, without any of the benefits.

Obviously, due to your transient nature over the next couple of years it makes sense for you, but if a landlord would show me the lease you have I'd laugh and walk out.

THANK YOU!

[LSU]

I've got to say that it does seem odd that your rental agreement includes basically nothing. You have all the cost of home ownership, without any of the benefits.

Obviously, due to your transient nature over the next couple of years it makes sense for you, but if a landlord would show me the lease you have I'd laugh and walk out.



Who, me?

[LSU]

It wasn't funny the first time you posted it

That's unfortunate.

[V]

Do you ever go on to realtor.com and watch your dream home's price increase out of your grasp as the months go by? It must be depressing to see.

No not at the moment because I am literally having a hard time financially. BUt I will tell you, once I get that sorted, which I will, who do you think has a better chance at saving money. A renter that pays for everything with one low price each month, or somebody who has to pay for a rent, plus utilities, and etc?

[LSU]

Who, me?

If so, what doesn't it include?

Basic lawn care
Refrigerator
W/D

That's out of the ordinary?

[V]

No not at the moment because I am literally having a hard time financially. BUt I will tell you, once I get that sorted, which I will, who do you think has a better chance at saving money. A renter that pays for everything with one low price each month, or somebody who has to pay for a rent, plus utilities, and etc?

Yeah, that's what I fucking thought.

[Jiddy78]

No not at the moment because I am literally having a hard time financially. BUt I will tell you, once I get that sorted, which I will, who do you think has a better chance at saving money. A renter that pays for everything with one low price each month, or somebody who has to pay for a rent, plus utilities, and etc?

Whichever situation adds to more being outlaid, assuming identical incomes.

[Nixon's Head]

So does a single fellow such as myself benefit from this deal or will I not get anything at all?All of this rental talk is lovely. I'm semi-happy renting, but I'd love to be able to buy a home in the next couple of years. Unfortunately I just don't make what I need to in order to purchase a home in the area of Bton I want to live in.

As for the quote can anyone answer that question?

[V]

Whichever situation adds to more being outlaid, assuming identical incomes.

Whatever. I didn't even mention half of the shit I get with my rent.

[LSU]

All of this rental talk is lovely. I'm semi-happy renting, but I'd love to be able to buy a home in the next couple of years. Unfortunately I just don't make what I need to in order to purchase a home in the area of Bton I want to live in.

As for the quote can anyone answer that question?


If I understand it right, as long as you make less than 75k, you should get the single person amount, so $600 or whatever.

[Nixon's Head]

If I understand it right, as long as you make less than 75k, you should get the single person amount, so $600 or whatever.Sweet. That will come in handy for sure.

[LSU]

Whatever. I didn't even mention half of the shit I get with my rent.



I can make my own shit. I don't have to have it included in the rent.

[V]

All of this rental talk is lovely. I'm semi-happy renting, but I'd love to be able to buy a home in the next couple of years. Unfortunately I just don't make what I need to in order to purchase a home in the area of Bton I want to live in.

As for the quote can anyone answer that question?

I am not one who has a strong talent for economics or finances, but I was taught to get what you want with as much shit included for the lowest price possible. So, go to Craigslist, and search for rentals that give you more for either the same amount of money or less.

[Jiddy78]

Yeah, that's what I fucking thought.

Well then...Then I change my answer...I'd bet on the guy or gal who has a loving spouse that brings in another income to help out their loved one.

[V]

I can make my own shit. I don't have to have it included in the rent.

Right because you own your home, but I am still a smart and savvy renter, adn when I have to spend my own money, I get a good fucking deal. So when I do purchase my own home, you can bet your ass that I will transfer my talents into a great buy!

[LSU]

Well then...Then I change my answer...I'd bet on the guy or gal who has a loving spouse that brings in another income to help out their loved one.



Yeah, that's what I fucking thought.

[V]

I can make my own shit. I don't have to have it included in the rent.

Why make it when you can get it included.

[LSU]

Right because you own your home, but I am still a smart and savvy renter, adn when I have to spend my own money, I get a good fucking deal. So when I do purchase my own home, you can bet your ass that I will transfer my talents into a great buy!


Wow.

You really take shit to heart, eh?

OK, OK, I give. You're smart and savvy. You rule. You are the deal maker.

Rock on.

Dude.

[V]

Well then...Then I change my answer...I'd bet on the guy or gal who has a loving spouse that brings in another income to help out their loved one.

That's a different situation, but how much help can that loving spouse be when he/she allowed him to get his ass pounded with his great rental agreement. So I'll take my chances!

[LSU]

Why make it when you can get it included.



It's more of a byproduct of digestion than it is "making it".

[V]

Wow.

You really take shit to heart, eh?

OK, OK, I give. You're smart and savvy. You rule. You are the deal maker.

Rock on.

Dude.

Yeah, I take being called a forever renter to heart.

[LSU]

Yeah, I take being called a forever renter to heart.



You should choose you zest for Jiddy then, because I recall it, I didn't call you the forever renter.

But, if you'd like to portray his thoughts as coming from my mind, that's cool. I'll play along.

[Jiddy78]

Yeah, I take being called a forever renter to heart.


Priced out forever renter.

Jesus.

[V]

You should choose you zest for Jiddy then, because I recall it, I didn't call you the forever renter.

But, if you'd like to portray his thoughts as coming from my mind, that's cool. I'll play along.

Look, it doesn't matter. I am a young woman who has had to pay my own way since I was 17 years-old, and that includes paying for my college education right down to buying my fucking toothpaste at 16 years old. So no matter what, I never had to do anything that most women do to get by, and I am still a smarter consumer than most men. So BOOYAH BITCH!

[LSU]

Look, it doesn't matter. I am a young woman who has had to pay my own way since I was 17 years-old, and that includes paying for my college education right down to buying my fucking toothpaste at 16 years old. So no matter what, I never had to do anything that most women do to get by, and I am still a smarter consumer than most men. So BOOYAH BITCH!


Smarter indeed.

[BoredWithNoSB]

If so, what doesn't it include?

Basic lawn care
Refrigerator
W/D

That's out of the ordinary?

Based on my experience, yes. It may be a regional thing, though.

Maybe in the south that's how they do leases.

[V]

Smarter indeed.

Yeah, and you are a fucking common-sense genius!

[Jiddy78]

Based on my experience, yes. It may be a regional thing, though.

Maybe in the south that's how they do leases.

Maybe...As a guy who moved 6 times in his childhood from apartment to apartment, I remember distinctly some places we had to...others we didn't...That's in Chicago, mind you.

[V]

Based on my experience, yes. It may be a regional thing, though.

Maybe in the south that's how they do leases.

Granted I have not lived on the West Coast, but I did live in New York City where it actually is common to rent apartments without appliances and thus making you responsible to buy them, but I was smart enough to not rent those places.

[BoredWithNoSB]

Maybe...As a guy who moved 6 times in his childhood from apartment to apartment, I remember distinctly some places we had to...others we didn't...That's in Chicago, mind you.

I've had four rental houses and only one of them included lawn maintenance, but they provided the lawnmower, at least.

All came with all appliances and 24/7 maintenance.

Of course then I got stupid and bought. Now I have all my own maintenance and got a POS $160K/$125K (2005/2008) depreciating asset to go with it.

[V]

What conversation over? No more witty comments about how I am not smart with my money and how I will be a forever renter? None? Yeah, that's what I fucking thought. Thanks for playing though, boys! It was fun. I'm gonna go have a smoke now.

[Jiddy78]

I've had four rental houses and only one of them included lawn maintenance, but they provided the lawnmower, at least.

All came with all appliances and 24/7 maintenance.

Of course then I got stupid and bought. Now I have all my own maintenance and got a POS $160K/$125K (2005/2008) depreciating asset to go with it.

As per your AGREEMENT?

[Jiddy78]

What conversation over? No more witty comments about how I am not smart with my money and how I will be a forever renter? None? Yeah, that's what I fucking thought. Thanks for playing though, boys! It was fun. I'm gonna go have a smoke now.

Smoking to relax oneself is not nearly as good as just beating the insecurity itself...

[Jiddy78]

Smoking to relax oneself is not nearly as good as just beating the insecurity itself...


*flexes muscles and kisses them*

My thread...B*tches.

Nobody messes with Jiddy and Hammerin' Hank.

[LSU]

Based on my experience, yes. It may be a regional thing, though.

Maybe in the south that's how they do leases.



No clue, it's the first time I rented a house in the south. I do know that I'm also in a college town and am within 6 miles of campus and can avoid all major bottlenecks getting into campus from where I live.

If it were an apartment, I certainly would expect a little more, including all appliances, lawn care, and mostly anything you can think of...and when I did have an apartment, we did have that.


We got in on the low end of home's for rent in the city, not including the areas of town that would make you want to consider a move to detroit. And it's cheaper than many smaller apartments available. And now, since the big boom of housing need after all the people from New Orleans moved this way, rent anywhere is ridiculous. Which makes me wonder...isn't what I'm getting going to be good or bad relative to what I'm paying? And if so, did I say what I pay? I can't remember doing it...but I can't remember not doing it, either. But along those lines, a house one street over from us was on the market for rent for about a week before it had occupancy. The rent was $275 higher than what I pay. I'm not sure what services are included, but I do know that $275 a month extra isn't worth it for a refrigerator and lawn mower. The house is probably a little bigger, but not much, and likely a little newer. But still, now way it's worth the extra $$.

[LSU]

Yeah, and you are a fucking common-sense genius!



It's about time someone recognizes that and has the balls to say it.

[LSU]

What conversation over? No more witty comments about how I am not smart with my money and how I will be a forever renter? None? Yeah, that's what I fucking thought. Thanks for playing though, boys! It was fun. I'm gonna go have a smoke now.



Pardon me. I actually had something to do besides gab on the internet about what a deal maker I am.

That's what I fucking thought.

*Flexes muscle and kisses lease

Eat it, bitches.

[LSU]

I've had four rental houses and only one of them included lawn maintenance, but they provided the lawnmower, at least.

All came with all appliances and 24/7 maintenance.

Of course then I got stupid and bought. Now I have all my own maintenance and got a POS $160K/$125K (2005/2008) depreciating asset to go with it.


So, the only difference is that I bought a lawnmower (which I would eventually buy anyway) and a refrigerator (which I would eventually by anyway). And I get to take both with me.

I don't really see the difference.

If I knew I was staying here, I would already have gotten myself into a POS depreciating asset myself. But since I'm more likely to move once I'm done, I figure just rent it out and not get stuck waiting for a buyer...and when I get to where I'm going, settle down and enjoy already owning a lawnmower, refrigerator, washer, and dryer and not having to scramble to buy those once I reach my new abode.

Perspective kinda puts it in perspective.

[Nixon's Head]

I am not one who has a strong talent for economics or finances, but I was taught to get what you want with as much shit included for the lowest price possible. So, go to Craigslist, and search for rentals that give you more for either the same amount of money or less.I don't think Bton has that.

[V]

*flexes muscles and kisses them*

My thread...B*tches.

Nobody messes with Jiddy and Hammerin' Hank.

Please, I jumped on this b*tch and owned it! Flipped it, slapped it, bagged it, and gave it cab fare for the ride home.;)

[BoredWithNoSB]

I don't think Bton has that.

http://bloomington.craigslist.org/apa/

Speaking of, this seems liek a good deal in the LSU area and it even comes with a fridge.

http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/apa/540380584.html

[LSU]

Please, I jumped on this b*tch and owned it! Flipped it, slapped it, bagged it, and gave it cab fare for the ride home.;)



I donkey punched it.

Consider yourself trumped.

[LSU]

http://bloomington.craigslist.org/apa/

Speaking of, this seems liek a good deal in the LSU area and it even comes with a fridge.

http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/apa/540380584.html


That does look like a nice place. Until you consider we didn't want to live in an apartment (or a condo) anymore. And that's still more than what I pay right now, after all utilities are included.

[Smoke681]

What conversation over? No more witty comments about how I am not smart with my money and how I will be a forever renter? None? Yeah, that's what I fucking thought. Thanks for playing though, boys! It was fun. I'm gonna go have a smoke now.
You appear to be the type that when confronted with people of a higher intellect and stronger argument, you resort to vulgar language and try to gain the proverbial upper-hand by acting tough.

Keep it up, in your mind it's no doubt workin' for ya.

[V]

You appear to be the type that when confronted with people of a higher intellect and stronger argument, you resort to vulgar language and try to gain the proverbial upper-hand by acting tough.

Keep it up, in your mind it's no doubt workin' for ya.

I just happen to have a potty mouth. Serously though, you wrote this post as if I agreed with you deep down that I was confronted by someone of a higher intellect and stronger argument. :p

[Jiddy78]

I just happen to have a potty mouth. Serously though, you wrote this post as if I agreed with you deep down that I was confronted by someone of a higher intellect and stronger argument. :p

I don't know about intellectually superior...but I'm definitely better looking.

[V]

I don't know about intellectually superior...but I'm definitely better looking.

Is it because I typed seriously wrong??? Hmmm, getting Jiddy wit it! And I am a hot chick, so if you are better looking than a hot chick, well, are you a lipstick lesbian? Because if so, that is cool with me.

[Roy Munson]

Is it because I typed seriously wrong??? Hmmm, getting Jiddy wit it! And I am a hot chick, so if you are better looking than a hot chick, well, are you a lipstick lesbian? Because if so, that is cool with me.
This whole site is hot chicks...

[Smoke681]

Is it because I typed seriously wrong??? Hmmm, getting Jiddy wit it! And I am a hot chick, so if you are better looking than a hot chick, well, are you a lipstick lesbian? Because if so, that is cool with me.
Any female that refers to herself as a "hot chick" is 98% of the time absolutely NOT a "hot chick" by guy standards.

[Jiddy78]

Any female that refers to herself as a "hot chick" is 98% of the time absolutely NOT a "hot chick" by guy standards.

Don't listen to this guy...He LOVES the c*ck.

[V]

Any female that refers to herself as a "hot chick" is 98% of the time absolutely NOT a "hot chick" by guy standards.

Well, a club full of men from last Saturday would disagree with you, but thanks for playing. I have the security of knowning I have no problems getting laid.

[V]

Don't listen to this guy...He LOVES the c*ck.

Loves Chick? or Cock? I am confused. Is he confused?

[Smoke681]

I just happen to have a potty mouth. Serously though, you wrote this post as if I agreed with you deep down that I was confronted by someone of a higher intellect and stronger argument. :p
Judging by your posts, my 10 month old son has higher intellect and can present stronger arguments than you.

[Jiddy78]

Loves Chick? or Cock? I am confused. Is he confused?

You're losing the intellectually superior argument as each post passes....Please...I try my darnedest to be on the other side of YOM.

[Smoke681]

Well, a club full of men from last Saturday would disagree with you, but thanks for playing. I have the security of knowning I have no problems getting laid.
Clubs = alcohol.

Janet Reno can get laid if she hangs out with enough drunk guys.

[Jiddy78]

Clubs = alcohol.

Janet Reno can get laid if she hangs out with enough drunk guys.

She LOVES the c*ck.

[V]

Clubs = alcohol.

Janet Reno can get laid if she hangs out with enough drunk guys.

Well, my friend, I am no Janet Reno. But funny, your club=alcohol senario does not prove true for men.....

[Smoke681]

She LOVES the c*ck.
Careful. Now VFor will think Janet's a lesbian.

Her being one or not is irrelevant.

[V]

Judging by your posts, my 10 month old son has higher intellect and can present stronger arguments than you.

Oh, I am so glad that you feel superior to somebody else posting on this website. I am sure that will make your son proud of his father.

[Jiddy78]

Well, my friend, I am no Janet Reno. But funny, your club=alcohol senario does not prove true for men.....

Au contraire, in my single days I was more than happy to be liquored up and used like an old mattress...

[V]

Careful. Now VFor will think Janet's a lesbian.

Her being one or not is irrelevant.

I know becareful I might get a hard on for Janet...ohhhh, then what will happen

[Jiddy78]

Careful. Now VFor will think Janet's a lesbian.

Her being one or not is irrelevant.

I'm sorry...Site rules state that the word "irrelevant" is no longer applicable...You may use "illevernt" instead.

[V]

Au contraire, in my single days I was more than happy to be liquored up and used like an old mattress...

Jiddy....

[V]

I'm sorry...Site rules state that the word "irrelevant" is no longer applicable...You may use "illevernt" instead.

I LOVE YOU!