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StEeLeRsGiRl1985
04-07-2007, 01:08 PM
MIAMI — A high school club that promotes tolerance of gays must be allowed to meet while a lawsuit is pending, a federal judge ruled.

U.S. District Judge K. Michael Moore ruled Friday that Okeechobee High School must grant the same privileges to the Gay Straight Alliance that it grants other clubs, as mandated by the federal Equal Access Act.

The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Okeechobee school board in November on behalf of the high school's Gay-Straight Alliance after school officials said the group was a "sex-based" organization that would violate its abstinence-only education policy.

In his 12-page ruling, Moore wrote that the group and its founder, high school senior Yasmin Gonzalez, have "demonstrated a substantial likelihood of success" on their claim that the school violated federal law when it prohibited the club from meeting

ACLU attorney Robert Rosenwald called Friday's order a "strong indication of what will happen in the end."

In his ruling, the judge said the school showed no evidence to back its concern that the group would encourage students to share "obscene or sexual explicit material," and that the school had made that assumption based on the group's name.

David Gibbs, the lawyer for the school board, said Friday he had not spoken to the school board about whether it would press forward for trial. He said he believes the judge's decision honors the school's desire that the club steer clear of discussions related to sex.

"The kids are getting the name they wanted," he said, "But we're pleased that the students are limited to discussing discrimination issues."

Gonzalez said she was happy with the decision and issued a statement saying she hoped future students "will benefit from a more open environment and not have to endure the same treatment from our school."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264769,00.html

ryr8828
04-07-2007, 01:59 PM
Is there a Christian group that's allowed to meet, or has an ACLU lawsuit already struck that down?

LSU
04-07-2007, 02:13 PM
Is there a Christian group that's allowed to meet, or has an ACLU lawsuit already struck that down?


It's been awhile since I've been in HS, but there was FCA. Fellowship of Christian Athletes...

ryr8828
04-07-2007, 03:16 PM
It's been awhile since I've been in HS, but there was FCA. Fellowship of Christian Athletes...

It's been even longer since high school for me, I think they had a Bible Club then.

I'd almost bet that stuff like that has been removed by now due to "separation of church and state".

There were some kids handing out fliers to a Teens for Jesus or some such thing at the high school last year or the year before, and they were immediately smote down by one activist who raised hell all over the damn town and county about it.

LSU
04-07-2007, 03:34 PM
It's been even longer since high school for me, I think they had a Bible Club then.

I'd almost bet that stuff like that has been removed by now due to "separation of church and state".

There were some kids handing out fliers to a Teens for Jesus or some such thing at the high school last year or the year before, and they were immediately smote down by one activist who raised hell all over the damn town and county about it.


Extremists suck.

I don't see how that violates church and state separation. It's not required attendance, and other than meeting in a public setting (if at school), it's not using public funds. As long as the Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, and Buddhist clubs also got shot down, then I could see how it's equal treatment.

ryr8828
04-08-2007, 08:58 AM
I just remembered that someone told me there would be no opening prayer at our high school graduation this year because of the one mouthy activist.

I'm hoping for a hard headed spiritual valedictorian full of sand.

LSU
04-08-2007, 12:00 PM
I just remembered that someone told me there would be no opening prayer at our high school graduation this year because of the one mouthy activist.

I'm hoping for a hard headed spiritual valedictorian full of sand.


I don't have a problem with that. It's a schoolwide function. Not everyone is a believer...particularly in one religion...so one prayer isn't exactly all inclusive.


Now, for me, I wouldn't complain about it...but I can see some others' reasoning for it.

Vegas
04-08-2007, 12:05 PM
It's incredible how the no establishment clause has been interpreted to diminish the freedom clause.

LSU
04-08-2007, 12:07 PM
It's incredible how the no establishment clause has been interpreted to diminish the freedom clause.


How has freedom been affected? Does it say that youcan't say a prayer before graduation on your own? Or just that someone can't lead a prayer during the official ceremony?

Vegas
04-08-2007, 12:12 PM
How has freedom been affected? Does it say that youcan't say a prayer before graduation on your own? Or just that someone can't lead a prayer during the official ceremony?

I'm not talking so much about this case as in general.

LSU
04-08-2007, 12:15 PM
I'm not talking so much about this case as in general.



Oh, OK. Understand.


But to ryr's second point about the valedictorian speech letting loose on the decision...


Hell yeah. I'm all for philosophical and/or creative messages in a valedictorian speech as opposed to the boring rah rah "we're the best class, our future is bright, take hold of you opportunities" BS. I wish schools would teach people to think rather than just copy what everyone else has been doing for...ever.