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Tom Joad
08-11-2007, 10:31 PM
So, do the Loch Ness monster, Sasquatch (Bigfoot), the Abominable Snowman, El Chupacabra, and any other regional monsters really exist?

Vegas
08-11-2007, 10:39 PM
So, do the Loch Ness monster, Sasquatch (Bigfoot), the Abominable Snowman, El Chupacabra, and any other regional monsters really exist?

No.

Tom Joad
08-11-2007, 10:49 PM
No.


Why not?

Vegas
08-11-2007, 11:51 PM
Why not?

For the years and years of stories, nobody has provided any evidence that any of those exist.

MTVike
08-12-2007, 12:22 AM
Trap question.

Or, if Vegas is responding, attempted trap question.

LSU
08-12-2007, 01:05 AM
Why not?


Prove something that isn't? By trying to find evidence that isn't there?


I guess next we'll need to prove there was never a crocoduck.

Tom Joad
08-12-2007, 11:59 AM
Trap question.

Or, if Vegas is responding, attempted trap question.

Who's trapping whom? I think it's interesting that these stories persist and wanted to know what others thought of them.

Hotpapa666
08-12-2007, 01:08 PM
For the years and years of stories, nobody has provided any evidence that any of those exist.


Exactly like the reasoning we atheists use for the non-existence of a god. Kudos Vegas for seeing the light.

Vegas
08-12-2007, 03:36 PM
Exactly like the reasoning we atheists use for the non-existence of a god. Kudos Vegas for seeing the light.

Exactly what creationists use to point out that there is no proof whatsoever for evolution. The lack of transitional fossils is the same as the lack of proof for the monsters. I guess you're just too angry and/or stupid to see that logic.

I'm getting tired of your insults. You throw out statements like that without adding anything to the debate here.

LSU
08-12-2007, 09:54 PM
Exactly what creationists use to point out that there is no proof whatsoever for evolution. The lack of transitional fossils is the same as the lack of proof for the monsters. I guess you're just too angry and/or stupid to see that logic.

I'm getting tired of your insults. You throw out statements like that without adding anything to the debate here.


Huh?

I guess you're just too angry and/or stupid to see that logic.

Hotpapa666
08-12-2007, 10:24 PM
Exactly what creationists use to point out that there is no proof whatsoever for evolution. The lack of transitional fossils is the same as the lack of proof for the monsters. I guess you're just too angry and/or stupid to see that logic.

I'm getting tired of your insults. You throw out statements like that without adding anything to the debate here.

Wow. A personal attack. Good job buddy. I didn't insult you. I don't think I've ever insulted you. I don't always have a very high opinion of the sources that you link, or some of the ideas that you post....


You bring up transitional fossils. There is a lack of transitional fossils? What are all of those things clogging up Natural History Museums and Univeristies throughout the western world? Not to mention the history of evolution locked in our DNA....

Tom Joad
08-12-2007, 10:44 PM
What I think is so interesting is not so much that these stories persist but that there are so many of them and they pervade pretty much every culture. I also think it is interesting that many people believe these things still inhabit the forests and the lakes as if they're some kind of esoteric (not to mention immortal) boogeymen!

Hotpapa666
08-12-2007, 10:57 PM
What I think is so interesting is not so much that these stories persist but that there are so many of them and they pervade pretty much every culture. I also think it is interesting that many people believe these things still inhabit the forests and the lakes as if they're some kind of esoteric (not to mention immortal) boogeymen!

I think the whole thing is superstitious mumbo-jumbo. The ancient described the rising and setting of the sun as a god riding across the sky in a chariot. They believed their were Heros (half god half man) who walked amoung them; sound familiar? Christians believe that a man-god came down and walked amoung us and to prove his devine power he cured one guy of blindness, turn a small amount of food into a larger amount of food, walked on water and made one old guy come back to life.

People in Scotland see some ripples in the water and describe it as a Monsters. Some Mexicans discover some half eaten goats and it's El Chubacabra... People have a lot of imagination and are always for explainations; sometimes they come up with bizzare shit.

Tom Joad
08-12-2007, 11:00 PM
I think the whole thing is superstitious mumbo-jumbo. The ancient described the rising and setting of the sun as a god riding across the sky in a chariot. They believed their were Heros (half god half man) who walked amoung them; sound familiar? Christians believe that a man-god came down and walked amoung us and to prove his devine power he cured one guy of blindness, turn a small amount of food into a larger amount of food, walked on water and made one old guy come back to life.

People in Scotland see some ripples in the water and describe it as a Monsters. Some Mexicans discover some half eaten goats and it's El Chubacabra... People have a lot of imagination and are always for explainations; sometimes they come up with bizzare shit.

While I'd agree with you that most of it is imagination, I still find it interesting.

Hotpapa666
08-12-2007, 11:09 PM
While I'd agree with you that most of it is imagination, I still find it interesting.

Yeah, I've seen of those shows on the History Channel and they can be rather interesting. The bad thing about those shows is that they are kind of the Fox News of history; they give 90% of the time to one side and a tiny amount to the other...

I guess it's like anything that believe in strongly. No amount of evidence to the contrary is going to convince them otherwise.

Emmanuel
08-13-2007, 10:34 AM
This subject always makes me lament the early exit of Mitch Hedberg.

I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here.

What mysteries could he have unearthed had he been with us for a few years longer.