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04-03-2007, 12:04 PM
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Published on Monday, April 2, 2007 by Jerusalem Post
‘US Ready to Strike Iran on Good Friday’
by Jerusalem Post staff and AP

The United States will be ready to launch a missile attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities as soon as early this month, perhaps “from 4 a.m. until 4 p.m. on April 6,” according to reports in the Russian media on Saturday. According to Russian intelligence sources, the reports said, the US has devised a plan to attack several targets in Iran, and an assault could be carried out by launching missiles from fighter jets and warships stationed in the Persian Gulf.

Russian news agency RIA Novosti quoted a security official as saying, “Russian intelligence has information that the US Armed Forces stationed in the Persian Gulf have nearly completed preparations for a missile strike against Iranian territory.”

The Russian Defense Ministry rejected the claims of an imminent attack as “myths.” There was no immediate response from Washington.

The reports come as the Iranian chief of staff, Hassan Fayrouz Abadi, was quoted on Saturday by Iran’s Fars news agency warning leaders of Arab countries that Israel plans to open a “suicidal attack” on its neighbors this summer, to “prevent the withdrawal of the US troops from Iraq and the area.”

“I warn the dear leaders and Muslim brothers in the neighboring countries of the occupied territories that this suicidal attack of the Zionists is threatening them,” he said.

The countries in danger, he said, were “Lebanon and Syria, and later Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.”

Also on Saturday, Russia urged Britain and Teheran to resolve the dispute over 15 British sailors and marines captured by Iran last week, a local news agency reported.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mikhail Kamynin urged the two sides to provide the United Nations with their own assessments as to what happened and where exactly the detention occurred so that the body could conduct an independent probe.

“We hope these actions will provide a foundation for the soonest possible resolution of the crisis,” Kamynin was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad insisted that the captured British sailors and marines trespassed in Iranian waters and called world powers “arrogant” for failing to apologize, the country’s official news agency reported.

“The British occupier forces did trespass our waters. Our border guards detained them with skill and bravery. But arrogant powers, because of their arrogant and selfish spirit, are claiming otherwise,” IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying during a speech in the southeastern city of Andinmeshk.

The European Union grappled with a double bind over Iran Saturday - the country’s nuclear program and its seizure of the British troops - and reported no progress on either issue.

A debate about Iran’s nuclear ambitions had been scheduled as a key agenda item but “was overshadowed to a certain extent by the issue of the sailors and marines,” German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said after hosting a two-day EU foreign ministers meeting in Bremen, Germany.

The Foreign Ministry in Iran dismissed the EU’s “biased and meddlesome” comments on the captured troops, saying the dispute solely involved the governments of Iran and Britain.

Speaking to reporters in Bremen, British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett urged Iran to resolve the crisis over the military personnel peacefully, saying London remains open to dialogue.

“We encourage Iran to peacefully resolve this issue,” she said.

“We continue to express our willingness to engage in dialogue and discussions with Iran,” she added. “That is very much in the best interest of our people and that is our foremost concern.”

“I think everyone regrets that this position has arisen,” she said. “What we want is a way out of it.”

AP contributed to this report.

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LSU
04-03-2007, 12:14 PM
That sounds like a great idea. I'm sure with all their posturing they've done, they haven't had time to sit down and figure out how they'd respond, so we should have them on their knees in a matter of days, if not hours.

Vegas
04-03-2007, 12:15 PM
I think that the USA will count on Israel to do the dirty work of bombing the nuke facilities in Iran much like they did in Iraq.

LSU
04-03-2007, 12:17 PM
I think that the USA will count on Israel to do the dirty work of bombing the nuke facilities in Iran much like they did in Iraq.


Hmm...

Which do you think would piss off the Muslims more? The US bombing Iran...or Israel?

Vegas
04-03-2007, 12:25 PM
Hmm...

Which do you think would piss off the Muslims more? The US bombing Iran...or Israel?

I think there would be very little difference. Many in the Arab world hate us because of our alliance with Israel.

Jiddy78
04-03-2007, 12:26 PM
I think there would be very little difference. Many in the Arab world hate us because of our alliance with Israel.


Many outside of the arab world are "upset" with us because of our alliance with Israel...based on my observations.

Vegas
04-03-2007, 12:33 PM
Many outside of the arab world are "upset" with us because of our alliance with Israel...based on my observations.

That is also true.

LSU
04-03-2007, 12:49 PM
I think there would be very little difference. Many in the Arab world hate us because of our alliance with Israel.



I agree...but for some reason, I have a gut feeling they have a little more animosity towards the Israelis...maybe not.

hannitykillspuppies
04-03-2007, 01:07 PM
I think there would be very little difference. Many in the Arab world hate us because of our alliance with Israel.
and because we sell them military equipment. they just ignore the fact that our relationship with israel is the reason that israel hasn't bombed that region to hell and back.

Jiddy78
04-03-2007, 01:12 PM
and because we sell them military equipment. they just ignore the fact that our relationship with israel is the reason that israel hasn't bombed that region to hell and back.

So much for compassion....

IBC
04-03-2007, 02:46 PM
I think that the USA will count on Israel to do the dirty work of bombing the nuke facilities in Iran much like they did in Iraq.
Doesn't matter, it will be a disaster. Is this guy trying to widen the conflict?

Vegas
04-03-2007, 02:47 PM
Doesn't matter, it will be a disaster. Is this guy trying to widen the conflict?

You don't see Iran developing nuclear weapons as widening the conflict?

IBC
04-03-2007, 02:52 PM
You don't see Iran developing nuclear weapons as widening the conflict?
Iran is developing nuclear weapons? They are developing nuclear technology. I have heard this song and dance before. Here we go. I am going to buy a case of beer, some porn, some ice cream,and me and my girlfriend are going to celebrate (lament) the end of the world.

hannitykillspuppies
04-03-2007, 03:34 PM
You don't see Iran developing nuclear weapons as widening the conflict?when they have icbm capabilities i'll consider worrying.

Vegas
04-03-2007, 03:35 PM
when they have icbm capabilities i'll consider worrying.

You don't think they could fire a nuke to Israel if they had it?

hannitykillspuppies
04-03-2007, 03:40 PM
You don't think they could fire a nuke to Israel if they had it?

they certainly could. so they fire their one nuke at israel, then what? wouldn't seem to be a wise move to do so. and they know that.

Vegas
04-03-2007, 03:43 PM
they certainly could. so they fire their one nuke at israel, then what? wouldn't seem to be a wise move to do so. and they know that.

You're assuming that the Iranians are wise?

hannitykillspuppies
04-03-2007, 03:46 PM
You're assuming that the Iranians are wise?

they know what will come down on them if they were to do that. self preservation will win out in the end.

Vegas
04-03-2007, 03:48 PM
they know what will come down on them if they were to do that. self preservation will win out in the end.

These are people who think that they will have the virgins waiting for them. You're highly optimistic.

IBC
04-03-2007, 03:49 PM
You're assuming that the Iranians are wise?
You are assuming they are idiots that don't believe in self preservation or the Principle of Assured Mutual Destruction. Now, do I believe that we should try to keep them from developing a nuke? Yes. By bombing them when they have 0 capability of hurting us? Absolutely not. Stupid as we could be right now. What the fuck are we thinking? I hope this is false. The war in Iraq created more terrorists and animosity towards us than we could've ever imagined. Iran is generally pro-west and pro-USA. We have played a huge role in getting extremists elected there through our actions in the Middle East. We cannot afford to lose anymore goodwill. We cannot afford to create more terrorists. This would be a disaster of epic proportions that we would be cleaning up for 50 years. Kinda like when we kept Saddam in power and employed him through the CIA. Kinda like when we turned our backs when he gassed the Iranians. Do you think that had anything to do with where we are today?

IBC
04-03-2007, 03:50 PM
These are people who think that they will have the virgins waiting for them. You're highly optimistic.
That is not a fair characterization of the Iranian people. They are some of the most progressive in the whole Middle East.

Vegas
04-03-2007, 03:51 PM
You are assuming they are idiots that don't believe in self preservation or the Principle of Assured Mutual Destruction. Now, do I believe that we should try to keep them from developing a nuke? Yes. By bombing them when they have 0 capability of hurting us? Absolutely not. Stupid as we could be right now. What the fuck are we thinking? I hope this is false. The war in Iraq created more terrorists and animosity towards us than we could've ever imagined. Iran is generally pro-west and pro-USA. We have played a huge role in getting extremists elected there through our actions in the Middle East. We cannot afford to lose anymore goodwill. We cannot afford to create more terrorists. This would be a disaster of epic proportions that we would be cleaning up for 50 years. Kinda like when we kept Saddam in power and employed him through the CIA. Kinda like when we turned our backs when he gassed the Iranians. Do you think that had anything to do with where we are today?


Iran is pro-west and pro-USA??? You've got to be kidding.

hannitykillspuppies
04-03-2007, 03:57 PM
These are people who think that they will have the virgins waiting for them. You're highly optimistic.

optimistic, perhaps. or maybe i just don't buy into the fear mongering that this administration specializes in.

hannitykillspuppies
04-03-2007, 03:59 PM
These are people who think that they will have the virgins waiting for them. You're highly optimistic.


and you're painting with a very broad brush there.

Vegas
04-03-2007, 04:00 PM
and you're painting with a very broad brush there.

If you don't think Iran is run by Muslim extremists put in place by very, very popular demand, you haven't been paying attention for the past 30 years.

IBC
04-03-2007, 05:36 PM
Iran is pro-west and pro-USA??? You've got to be kidding.
No I am not. As a people they are more progressive and more pro-west than any other country in the Middle East,

IBC
04-03-2007, 05:38 PM
If you don't think Iran is run by Muslim extremists put in place by very, very popular demand, you haven't been paying attention for the past 30 years.
You are just wrong. We ran the moderate out by refusing to talk to him and putting him in the Axis of Evil (what a frickin joke). We played a large part in getting us the nutjob that is in there now. To understand the Middle East you have to understand the role we play there first. Our president never has. He didn't even know the difference between Shia and Sunnis. He said, "aren't they all muslims?" Gives a bit of an idea on how we got where we are.

LSU
04-03-2007, 05:40 PM
No I am not. As a people they are more progressive and more pro-west than any other country in the Middle East,



I've heard this as well...the Iranian people (the gov't is a different story) were out in full force in sympathy after 9/11...they've got one of the more "western" atmospheres in the Mid East...night clubs, women at universities, etc.


If we get those people on our side, the gov't there falls...well, not falls, but more moderates may be elected...keep testing their will, they'll keep putting people in that thump the chest of the US...throw a couple bombs their way and see what happens then.

Jiddy78
04-03-2007, 05:41 PM
You are just wrong. We ran the moderate out by refusing to talk to him and putting him in the Axis of Evil (what a frickin joke). We played a large part in getting us the nutjob that is in there now. To understand the Middle East you have to understand the role we play there first. Our president never has. He didn't even know the difference between Shia and Sunnis. He said, "aren't they all muslims?" Gives a bit of an idea on how we got where we are.

You're missing the key fella...


If HE doesn't see the distinction as important........Connect the dots.

IBC
04-03-2007, 05:41 PM
I've heard this as well...the Iranian people (the gov't is a different story) were out in full force in sympathy after 9/11...they've got one of the more "western" atmospheres in the Mid East...night clubs, women at universities, etc.


If we get those people on our side, the gov't there falls...well, not falls, but more moderates may be elected...keep testing their will, they'll keep putting people in that thump the chest of the US...throw a couple bombs their way and see what happens then.
Yes, they offered us alot of support in Afghanistan too. We turned it down and put them in the Axis of Evil.

LSU
04-03-2007, 05:45 PM
I just googled iranian moderates and this was the first...

http://www.watsoninstitute.org/bjwa/archive/9.2/Iran/Timmerman.pdf

IBC
04-03-2007, 05:52 PM
Its easy to hate what you don't understand. It is also easy to try and kill what you don't understand. If teh American public could realize what other countries are really like maybe there wouldn't be such blind hatred.

Feel lucky, next time you are on a trip abroad that other countries recognize the difference between our government and our people. I met so many people that loved Americans and hated our government (rightfully so) in Central America. A truly enlightened person can see the humanity in everyone.

LSU
04-03-2007, 05:56 PM
Its easy to hate what you don't understand. It is also easy to try and kill what you don't understand. If teh American public could realize what other countries are really like maybe there wouldn't be such blind hatred.

Feel lucky, next time you are on a trip abroad that other countries recognize the difference between our government and our people. I met so many people that loved Americans and hated our government (rightfully so) in Central America. A truly enlightened person can see the humanity in everyone.



I've encountered the same thing, but with Europeans, at meetings...Brits and Frogs mostly. When in San Francisco last summer, it was interesting hearing them talk about what they saw when cruising around San Fran...and that's supposedly one of the more liberal cities...just a lot of talk...the main thing they couldn't believe was the economic gap...no lie, that's one of the main things they talked about.

LSU
04-03-2007, 06:00 PM
I just googled iranian moderates and this was the first...

http://www.watsoninstitute.org/bjwa/archive/9.2/Iran/Timmerman.pdf


Written by this guy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_R._Timmerman


So there's that side of the story...