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pnkpanther
03-30-2007, 02:42 PM
U.S., in policy shift, sets new duties on China goods By Doug Palmer
1 hour, 8 minutes ago



The U.S. Commerce Department said on Friday it was slapping duties on imports of coated paper from China, reversing a decades-old policy of not applying duties to subsidized goods from non-market economies.

Anger over the U.S. trade deficit with China, which hit a record $233 billion last year, has spurred demands for a tougher response to Chinese government subsidies, which many U.S. lawmakers believe are fueling that country's exports.

"China's economy has developed to the point that we can add another trade remedy tool, such as the countervailing duty law," U.S. Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez told reporters.

He announced a preliminary countervailing duty level of 10.90 to 20.35 percent on the coated paper from China.

The Commerce Department has reasoned that "China of 2007 is not a Soviet-bloc economy of the mid-1980s," Gutierrez said.

"Companies in China do respond to subsidies and we can reasonably measure the response," he said.

The announcement put pressure on the U.S. dollar because of concern it represented a shift to more protectionist stance.

But Gutierrez said the decision did "not signal any economic retreat from engagement with China."

"Rather it speaks of the growing strength of our commercial relationship and the fact that as economic partners we must be, above all, fair," he said.

The Bush administration still believes the best way to reduce the U.S. trade deficit is by increasing exports, not by reducing imports, Gutierrez said.

Several bills have been introduced in the U.S. Congress to require the Commerce Department to end its policy of not applying countervailing duties to non-market economies like China and Vietnam, to give U.S. manufacturers a new tool to fight unfair trade.

Despite the department's action on Friday, some of that legislation still appears likely to become law.

Gutierrez appeared to oppose those efforts, saying the department already had all the authority it needed.

"We don't believe we need any legislation to apply our law. Our law is very clear," Gutierrez said.

Last year, NewPage Corp., a Dayton, Ohio, manufacturer filed the first case asking for countervailing duties against China since 1991, when the Commerce Department rejected two such requests.

NewPage's case involves glossy paper imports from China, Indonesia and South Korea, which it believes are subsidized.

The Commerce Department's long-standing position had been it was too difficult to determine subsidy levels in a non-market economy, which China is considered under U.S. trade laws.

The U.S. Court of Appeals upheld that view in a 1986 case involving steel wire rod imports from Poland and the former Czechoslovakia. But many trade experts argued the department's stance no longer makes sense when it comes to China.

BoredWithNoSB
03-30-2007, 02:46 PM
Anger over the U.S. trade deficit with China, which hit a record $233 billion last year, has spurred demands for a tougher response to Chinese government subsidies, which many U.S. lawmakers believe are fueling that country's exports.

Damn them making cheaper, more marketable goods than us. We must put a stop to this! Our people cannot be allowed to continue to enojy such a high standard of living!

IBC
03-30-2007, 03:06 PM
Damn them making cheaper, more marketable goods than us. We must put a stop to this! Our people cannot be allowed to continue to enojy such a high standard of living!
You forgot high quality.

pnkpanther
03-30-2007, 03:15 PM
Damn them making cheaper, more marketable goods than us. We must put a stop to this! Our people cannot be allowed to continue to enojy such a high standard of living!


use pratcially slave labor in making their goods

Vegas
03-30-2007, 03:16 PM
use pratcially slave labor in making their goods


It bothers me that so few people are bothered by that. Too many people see the business opportunities in China (both buy and selling) but care so little about the human rights abuses.

IBC
03-30-2007, 03:17 PM
It bothers me that so few people are bothered by that. Too many people see the business opportunities in China (both buy and selling) but care so little about the human rights abuses.
I agree. They also are allowed much more pollution because they are a developing country. Its BS

Jiddy78
03-30-2007, 03:18 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aauQ_aLRy1J4&refer=asia

Japan's Household Spending Jumps; Production Falls


They dun wanna get theirs too. Time for some SPENDY!!!

Tom Joad
03-30-2007, 03:20 PM
It bothers me that so few people are bothered by that. Too many people see the business opportunities in China (both buy and selling) but care so little about the human rights abuses.


Wow, I agree with you!

Vegas
03-30-2007, 03:22 PM
Wow, I agree with you!


So now there's hope for permanent peace in the middle east??

Tom Joad
03-30-2007, 03:22 PM
So now there's hope for permanent peace in the middle east??


I dunno about that, though I heard a cold front was moving towards Hell.

Jiddy78
03-30-2007, 03:23 PM
It bothers me that so few people are bothered by that. Too many people see the business opportunities in China (both buy and selling) but care so little about the human rights abuses.


If we can't slave off the chindians, then a lot of wealth will be lost as profit margins will fall through the floor, since our retirement is now making a full adaptation to the stock market.


WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHH....Gone in a flash if we start giving the chindians a better life....

Some win. Some lose. It's life fella. Think of the bright side....At least we get to post at work all day on their hides.

BoredWithNoSB
03-30-2007, 03:56 PM
It bothers me that so few people are bothered by that. Too many people see the business opportunities in China (both buy and selling) but care so little about the human rights abuses.

Similar to an argument somebody made about Wal-Mart, this is what the market rate for labor is in China. If they don't like it, they can work somewhere else. Also, $5 goes a lot further in the remote villages on the Yangtzee than it does in Manhattan.

As far as "being allowed" to pollute more, we've made the CHOICE to pollute less, which I think is a very good choice. Nobody has forced us to change.

Jiddy78
03-30-2007, 04:04 PM
Similar to an argument somebody made about Wal-Mart, this is what the market rate for labor is in China. If they don't like it, they can work somewhere else. Also, $5 goes a lot further in the remote villages on the Yangtzee than it does in Manhattan.

As far as "being allowed" to pollute more, we've made the CHOICE to pollute less, which I think is a very good choice. Nobody has forced us to change.


No no no...New Yorkers f*ck everything up is the correct answer...With Californians a close second... Hellloooo??? Housing market?!?

BoredWithNoSB
03-31-2007, 07:33 PM
Jiddy, do you read stephen Leep at all?

I was trying to find soemthing to read at Borders and browsed the book. Sounded like a lot of your philosophies in there.

Jiddy78
03-31-2007, 08:18 PM
Jiddy, do you read stephen Leep at all?

I was trying to find soemthing to read at Borders and browsed the book. Sounded like a lot of your philosophies in there.

No...I haven't...but I'm making note of the name. Thanks for the tip.

Jiddy78
03-31-2007, 08:23 PM
Jiddy, do you read stephen Leep at all?

I was trying to find soemthing to read at Borders and browsed the book. Sounded like a lot of your philosophies in there.


Speaking of "my" philosophy...I readily admit that it is one that probably won't lead you down to the path of extreme wealth...whereas the go-getter one will....but Ima thinking you, as an accountant yourself, might be a litle more geared towards it as it is in the nature of an accountant...I swear it. We suck that way.