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SuperGonzo
11-05-2009, 06:45 PM
12 killed, 30+ wounded.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html
Vegas
11-05-2009, 06:54 PM
NBC News’ Pete Williams reported that U.S. officials identified the gunman as Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, an Army psychiatrist who had been promoted to major in May. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-Texas, said military officials told her that the gunman, who was 39 or 40, was about to be deployed to Iraq and was “upset about it.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
KinjaKahn
11-05-2009, 08:47 PM
Religion of Peace!
SuperGonzo
11-05-2009, 09:37 PM
Turns out that the guy responsible for the shooting isn't dead after all, and is in custody and recovering at Fort Hood.
Good. . .let him recover and get healthy enough to string him up by his stupid, worthless balls in the PX parking lot for the whole base to see.
becherr
11-06-2009, 01:08 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001
"At Walter Reed, Hasan received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
There was no official word on motive. But Hasan was scheduled to be deployed overseas on Nov. 28, officials said. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said military officials had told her that Hasan was “pretty upset” about his deployment, which she said was to be to Iraq."
I would bet that this guy was enlisted coming out of High School and got the army to pay for his college through the ROTC program and got his commission. A poor performance evaluation wouldn't mean shit to him since he probably had 16-17ish years in and was well on his way to retirement.
The deployment to Iraq would be something that might stress someone but he is a Doctor and wouldn't see alot of combat sort of action. Of course, he might hear about alot since he is a head doc.
“The Associated Press, quoting federal law enforcement officials, said Hasan had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats. The officials said they were still trying to confirm that he was the author."
"They shot me! And I’m still here in this country!” Dustin Bono quoted his sister as saying.
I think the they says it all.
becherr
11-06-2009, 01:30 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect
SuperGonzo
11-07-2009, 03:41 PM
Ralph Peters of the New York Post (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/fort_hood_xjP9yGrJN7gl7zdsJ31vnJ) says what none of the pieces of shit in the mainstream media and none of the left-wing pieces of shit that run this country will have the testicular fortitude to say.
On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting "Allahu Akbar!" committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11. And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.
What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of non-denominational shoplifting.
This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it’s an act of terror. Period.
When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian" in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit — well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an "Islamist terrorist."
But the president won’t. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there’s no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld.
And the Army won’t. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism "terrorism."
And the media won’t. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops — despite their crocodile tears.
Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn’t killed on the spot.
Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane. There’ll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our politically correct Army leadership wouldn’t dare pursue or carry out the death penalty.
Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he’ll have the last laugh.
But Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.
Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.
Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.
Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.
There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?
For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.
Get ready for the apologias. We’ve already heard from the terrorist’s family that "he’s a good American." In their world, maybe he is.
But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense?
A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card, beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she’s becoming too Westernized.
Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we’re assured that "Islam’s a religion of peace."
I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s non-response to the Ft. Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.
domenick2x
11-07-2009, 03:50 PM
I have a hard time blaming this on Islam directly. It's not like this guy was going to an extremist Mosque and being programmed.
He went nutty. Who knows when.
I do think it was an act of terrorism, but clearly there are no links to Al Qaeda or anything like that.
KinjaKahn
11-07-2009, 07:53 PM
I have a hard time blaming this on Islam directly. It's not like this guy was going to an extremist Mosque and being programmed.
He went nutty. Who knows when.
I do think it was an act of terrorism, but clearly there are no links to Al Qaeda or anything like that.
The difference between Muslime and muslime extremist is level of anger. This was a so called educated and Jordanian-American "westernized" muslime. Sure its not nice to pull back the covers on the death cult, but reality is reality, and I bet you are already sure that his death cult religion played no part, and are in agreement with him on the idea that a suicide bomber is everybit as gallant as the soldier who dives on the grenade to save his brothers. I heard he was saying Allahu Akbar as he was killing people. Religions are all good... right... Garter snakes and Black mambas... no difference... snakes is snakes right? Islam is garbage. Wake up.
domenick2x
11-07-2009, 08:00 PM
The difference between Muslime and muslime extremist is level of anger. This was a so called educated and Jordanian-American "westernized" muslime. Sure its not nice to pull back the covers on the death cult, but reality is reality, and I bet you are already sure that his death cult religion played no part, and are in agreement with him on the idea that a suicide bomber is everybit as gallant as the soldier who dives on the grenade to save his brothers. I heard he was saying Allahu Akbar as he was killing people. Religions are all good... right... Garter snakes and Black mambas... no difference... snakes is snakes right? Islam is garbage. Wake up.
Suicide bombers vs abortion doc killers.
Every religion has extremists and moderates. I think that Islam has a much higher proportion of extremists, but part of that is due to societal influences. And a lot of THAT comes from the history and governmental structure that they have endured. The West hasn't helped in that regard.
I don't blame Islam for a killer. I blame Islam for not doing a better job of marginalizing the wackos. There's a whole level of magnitude difference there. This guy, Islamic or not, was a probably a ticking time bomb. If he didn't join the military, he might have ended up going postal in a school or mall. Hell, in an office building in a major metropolitan area.
I don't blame Islam for wackos.
KinjaKahn
11-07-2009, 08:14 PM
Suicide bombers vs abortion doc killers.
Every religion has extremists and moderates. I think that Islam has a much higher proportion of extremists, but part of that is due to societal influences. And a lot of THAT comes from the history and governmental structure that they have endured. The West hasn't helped in that regard.
I don't blame Islam for a killer. I blame Islam for not doing a better job of marginalizing the wackos. There's a whole level of magnitude difference there. This guy, Islamic or not, was a probably a ticking time bomb. If he didn't join the military, he might have ended up going postal in a school or mall. Hell, in an office building in a major metropolitan area.
I don't blame Islam for wackos.
Fail. Islam is taught by a "divine revelation" From God called the Qu'ran it is not negotiable. There is no marginalizing the Divine. it is the "moderates" in Islam, aka those who do not live the book, that talk all this nice cuddly muslime shit. Their "profit", and that's what he was.. a gold digger illiterate pauper who married a wealthy widow named Khadijah, was a pedophile, marrying a 6 yr old, but even muslimes today defend this pedo by saying "he didnt consummate the marrige til she was 9". Their religion still sees it as ok to marry children off to old men. This is 7th century culture mixing with 21st century culture. Will you die for your 21st century culture? They will. So don't be surprised what happens when they get pissy. Oh wait... its all evened out by the guy who shot Tiller. 9/11... Tiller got shot... Even Steven.
domenick2x
11-07-2009, 09:40 PM
Fail. Islam is taught by a "divine revelation" From God called the Qu'ran it is not negotiable. There is no marginalizing the Divine. it is the "moderates" in Islam, aka those who do not live the book, that talk all this nice cuddly muslime shit. Their "profit", and that's what he was.. a gold digger illiterate pauper who married a wealthy widow named Khadijah, was a pedophile, marrying a 6 yr old, but even muslimes today defend this pedo by saying "he didnt consummate the marrige til she was 9". Their religion still sees it as ok to marry children off to old men. This is 7th century culture mixing with 21st century culture. Will you die for your 21st century culture? They will. So don't be surprised what happens when they get pissy. Oh wait... its all evened out by the guy who shot Tiller. 9/11... Tiller got shot... Even Steven.
Nice strawman.
A couple of hundred years ago, Christianity wasn't much different.
Not that I want to wait a couple of hundred years for Islam to catch up, but Christianity went through a lot of the same bullshit.
The fact that the governments over there fear pissing off the extremists is 98% of the problem.
SuperGonzo
11-07-2009, 10:30 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-07/major-hasans-hidden-militancy/full/
But, remember, this mother fucker wasn't crazy or anything. Just ask anyone in the mainstream media. They'll tell you.
We need to try to "understand" this man. We need to figure out what his "feelings" were before he did this. After all, if we don't do that, how can we continue to feel all warm and fuzzy about ourselves?
What a fucking joke. I hope this guy recovers just so they can throw his ass in Leavenworth and he can get tortured until his body simply decides it's time for him to go join Allah.
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