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Tom Joad
03-29-2007, 09:26 PM
Below is an article about electric prices and the outrageous amounts they've increased in Illinois in recent months. Since power companies are, at least oligopolies if not monopolies, what should be done? I mean, can we just let utility companies stick it to the average working person because they can?

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Illinois lawmaker says relief to power customers could be near
By Kevin McDermott
POST-DISPATCH SPRINGFIELD BUREAU
Thursday, Mar. 29 2007

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. — A key state lawmaker predicted Wednesday that an agreement
with Ameren and ComEd to provide some relief to Illinois electricity customers
hardest hit by recent rate hikes could be announced as early as today.

State Sen. James Clayborne, D-Belleville, the Senate's lead negotiator with the
two utilities in the continuing controversy over recent rate hikes, said
Wednesday that he was "hopeful" that an announcement might be made today.

While Clayborne declined to provide details of the potential agreement, he
didn't deny speculation that it might involve more than $100 million in
givebacks from the parent companies of Ameren and ComEd to electric customers
hit with the highest rate hikes in the past three months.

That kind of relief package wouldn't necessarily involve a reduction of future
rates for customers — and in fact would likely be presented as an alternative
to forced rate rollback legislation that some lawmakers are trying pass in the
Legislature.

Clayborne did confirm that the proposal being considered in closed-door
negotiations wouldn't need legislative approval, but instead could be approved
by state power regulators. That would effectively cut out involvement by the
Illinois House, where anger at the utilities has already led to a vote to roll
back and freeze rates for three years, and a proposal for a state-run power
authority.

Electric rates from Ameren and ComEd, the state's two largest utilities, jumped
dramatically on Jan. 2, the result of deregulation after a nine-year rate
freeze. The utilities say the hikes are the natural result of the lifting of
artificially low rates that were kept in place by law for almost a decade. Both
utilities have seen their credit bond ratings reduced to junk status in recent
weeks as a result of legislative threats to refreeze their rates.

Critics say the utilities' rate hikes — generally between 30 percent and 55
percent — are more than can be justified in the current power market.

Ameren, which serves the Metro East area and much of central and Southern
Illinois, has come under especially harsh criticism after it quietly ended a
special lower rate that had been in place for decades for the owners of
all-electric homes, causing some of those homeowners' power bills to increase
more than 100 percent.

Vegas
03-29-2007, 09:28 PM
Wait and see how high the energy prices go if they enact greenhouse gas emission limits.

Reagan Smash
03-29-2007, 09:31 PM
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ryr8828
03-29-2007, 09:33 PM
Emil Jones is owned by the utilities, that's one reason this has went this far.

I didn't hear any mention of complaints about ComEd until they were included in the recent bill to freeze rates back to prior levels. That's because only the southern part of IL was getting screwed by Ameren and no one cared. They included ComEd to get the northern lawmakers some face time.
Now Lisa Madigan is investigating and alluding to fixed price auctions by the utilities.

Rep John Bradley of my hometown has fought this issue hard for the taxpayers and utility users. He's not of my party but is a good guy and I applaud him for his hard work.

LSU
03-29-2007, 09:39 PM
Emil Jones is owned by the utilities, that's one reason this has went this far.

I didn't hear any mention of complaints about ComEd until they were included in the recent bill to freeze rates back to prior levels. That's because only the southern part of IL was getting screwed by Ameren and no one cared. They included ComEd to get the northern lawmakers some face time.
Now Lisa Madigan is investigating and alluding to fixed price auctions by the utilities.

Rep John Bradley of my hometown has fought this issue hard for the taxpayers and utility users. He's not of my party but is a good guy and I applaud him for his hard work.


Did you just compliment a liberal? You're slipping.

ryr8828
03-29-2007, 09:41 PM
Did you just compliment a liberal? You're slipping.

John Bradley is not a liberal, far from it.

He's simply a democrat.

I think he's actually a republican who calls himself a democrat.

LSU
03-29-2007, 09:44 PM
John Bradley is not a liberal, far from it.

He's simply a democrat.

I think he's actually a republican who calls himself a democrat.

Oh. I see.


Said the blind man.

Tom Joad
03-29-2007, 09:46 PM
John Bradley is not a liberal, far from it.

He's simply a democrat.

I think he's actually a republican who calls himself a democrat.

Couldn't he just be a "moderate Democrat?"

ryr8828
03-29-2007, 09:47 PM
Oh. I see.


Said the blind man.

Well, John likes guns. He dislikes state sponsored gambling. I'm pretty sure he opposes higher taxes.

John and our democrat governor Blagojevich have been at odds so much that Blagojevich came down here and did a radio show pounding John and his views, trying to get him beat.

Do the math.

ryr8828
03-29-2007, 09:48 PM
Couldn't he just be a "moderate Democrat?"

No, I'd have to go with conservative Democrat.

Hell, I'd vote for him. I think I might have already.

Tom Joad
03-29-2007, 09:49 PM
Well, John likes guns. He dislikes state sponsored gambling. I'm pretty sure he opposes higher taxes.

John and our democrat governor Blagojevich have been at odds so much that Blagojevich came down here and did a radio show pounding John and his views, trying to get him beat.

Do the math.

I dislike state-sponsored gambling and higher taxes. That sure doesn't make me a Republican.

ryr8828
03-29-2007, 09:51 PM
I dislike state-sponsored gambling and higher taxes. That sure doesn't make me a Republican.

It makes you closer than you think.

People draw lines. Most of my friends are democrats. The unions encourage it. We agree on a lot of things, my friends and I. We generally vote for pretty much the same people.

Tom Joad
03-29-2007, 09:54 PM
It makes you closer than you think.

People draw lines. Most of my friends are democrats. The unions encourage it. We agree on a lot of things, my friends and I. We generally vote for pretty much the same people.


I'm pretty far to the left, like really far.

ryr8828
04-02-2007, 06:26 AM
It seems my rural elec. co-op is doing their best to be as assholish as Ameren.

I went to pay my bill last night. It used to be due on the 15th every month for the last 26 years. Then lately it had been due on the 4th since they started reading the meters instead of us reading our own.
I look at the bill and it was due on the 25th of last month. So now I get to pay a 16 dollar late fee, along with the new 18 dollar equipment charge they added in a few months ago.

Bastards.